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in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

Nah, saying Linux "iS fUlL oF cHeAtErS" is pure monopolistic and out of touch. Like Microsoft. Microsoft only "loves" Linux to enrich themselves and entrench themselves.

Short of an anti-trust suit and a forced opening up of Windows APIs, the anti-cheat situation may not be fixable without violating copyright laws.

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in reply to cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

@cameronbosch that's not what they're saying though, is it, let's not make silly stories

they're saying Linux as a platform enables actual cheaters to do their thing, which it does, as we've heard time and time again

it's not that legit Linux users cheat, it's that it's easier to do so on Linux

in reply to cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

who even plays games on Linux. I mean, Linux ppl do obviously but normies? hell nah they don't. can't play fortnite on Linux can u?
in reply to cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

@cameronbosch @david oh for gods sake stop, it's nothing to do with MSFT, people need to stop seeing demons where there aren't any
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

So this impacts "...a small number of Apex players" and yet is supposed to meaningfully reduce instances of cheating? Something doesn't quite add up to me.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

Another game I will never touch again. EA is garbage. Won't be playing anything else from that awful company anytime soon.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

more devs need to learn the lesson MMORPG devs learned decades ago, which is "never trust the client", even with kernel level anti-cheat people will find ways to cheat (be that with expensive pcie debugging cards that can dma system memory, or with obs stream to an external system that manipulates usb device stream to create an aimbot). And for various reasons kernel level anti-cheat will be nearly impossible on linux. In shorts dev should have moved away from 90s net code, yes that will be hard for twitchy shooters, but will fully eliminate the rat race that is anti-cheat
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

and nothing was lost - I have plenty of other things I can play. Bye bye apex.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

what a shame, the one multiplayer game I was playing consistently. 🥲
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

I was JUST THE OTHER DAY considering coming back to Apex, haven't played a fun BR with my friends in a while... guess that's not happening.

I can't wait to see how this makes little to no difference in preventing cheaters from cheating in their game. But at least they tried, right?

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

“Our dev team wanted to provide a bit more context…” read: We can’t be bothered or don’t know how to figure out anti-cheat on Linux.

Whilst I agree with your comment Valve probably need to do something, so do game developers. The Steam Deck has made Linux more mainstream and developers can just keep making excuses now. Well they can I guess…

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

let's eliminate the cheater problem once and for all - block it from running on Windows as well!
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

so, game devs are falling back to their stance when Proton became popular: "but-but we can't install spyware on Linux, so we will block it completely!"

I can't remember now but I have a vague memory that some game banned Linux and the number of cheaters remained the same after the ban...

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

is there any chance to get some statistics from these companies? Something more than "linux open, cheats bad"?
I would really like to take a look at these. Without any data it just feels like empty marketing words to me.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

It is sad that list of Pvp competive games is getting shorter. Pretty much only available games are from Valve, Blizzard (switch is Microsoft now so I am worried for those games) and few random one like Guild Wars.

Also FaceIt is core part of some games like CSGO, so even if game is supported on Linux that doesn't mean that the "hardcore comp" is available.

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

damn, these are what your replies r like? no wonder ppl complain about masto being annoying Linux nerds

(You obviously are used to covering this space, but even so they're doing way too much 😮‍💨)

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

users can still play Apex Legends on Steam Deck "if the user opts to install Windows."
I think this decision sucks and encouraging the use of Windows also sucks. Is this an accessible option on the SD? Is there a prompt on first boot, or do users have to buy and install Windows 11 through a USB?
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

Our entire point of being on linux is because we have enormous patience and deep down we know that linux is going to win the whole world.

Its #inevitable and we don't need Thanos to say it.

At the same time some days we really hope Valve will speed up its selling of steam decks to the world.

Australia this month! Right? Right!?

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