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Multiple bright, young scientists I know have told me they will not be applying to jobs in TX & FL.

Faculty friends at institutions in these states have shared they are having trouble recruiting new students & concerned about what they could be accused of.

Having spent years working at UT Austin where I loved our weird & welcoming community, I’m deeply troubled watching things fall apart. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/25/texas-a-m-professor-opioids-dan-patrick/

in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

have a scientist friend in FL who has been trying to leave for a while now. there's a mass exodus.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

With the upcoming moon missions and need to take on scientists to work on this, could this potentially have an impact on the Moon mission programe, if people won't move to Florida,

Hopefully by 2025 the people of FLorida will have come to their senses and voted DeSantis and his mob back in to hell, where they belong.

in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Maybe the powers-that-be in those states view bright young minds questioning reality as the dangerous and deeply troubling thing they would like to have less of.

If so, this is all going exactly to their designed plan.

in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I was at an architecture college fair here in NYC and UT School of Arch were offering decent scholarships. I said even so, I wasn't that comfortable with my son going to Texas and the faculty at the table were like 'Yeah, we get that.'
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

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young scientists I know have told me they will not be applying to jobs in TX & FL

Can add, students, men, vacationing folks, women and sciencetists of any age

I can understand this, because the REMOVAL of #prochoice in TX and FL effects everyone


Its the environment that is caustic, caustic for some, is caustic for all

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in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

But that’s exactly what these laws are designed to do? Scaring young people (liberals) away is the last card they can play to keep getting elected. No matter the cost.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I’m really concerned we are going to start to see similar trends in the aerospace industry- which has been based largely in Texas and Florida.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I ain't applying in NY and Cali. Feed the fire 🔥🥵🚒, you guys live in your 2 million dollar shacks and drive through all that traffic. If the employers won't go remote then they won't go.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Realize also, that for the best and brightest from outside the US who want to come here to study, the stories from Florida and Texas make Afghanistan look like a better place to study than the US...
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

As a middle aged scientist, I certainly wouldn't. My first offer was a university in FL. Kinda glad I didn't, even though the faculty there were great.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Was recently mentoring a female student who was deciding on which graduate school to attend. We definitely had discussions on which states to avoid.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I'm confused - isn't this a true example of First Amendment protection because it happened at UTMB?

Last fall, I was criticized anonymously by one student for informing a first-year med school class that the TX Democratic candidate for governor would be on campus and they should ask him how he would expand Medicaid with a likely Republican-controlled legislature. Sometimes, students can't handle facts.

in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I have been told the same by very sharp academics on the market
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

the vigor with which Texas is destroying its future is really something to see. I’ve lived here nearly 20 years and would actively discourage anybody I know from moving here. That was not the case just 5 years ago.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Seems like the big state is run by very small fragile people.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

... and they shouldn't. I've never even considered jobs in red states. I don't want far right politicians deciding science and medical care for me. I'd rather get paid less, taxed higher and have higher cost of living than work in a fascist state.
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I applied for a job at UT Austin early in the year, but decided not to reapply when they started the search over as Texas is to scary for a trans couple right now
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

~15 years ago I was visiting Austin for conference & to lecture at UT, had dinner with ex-CA friend. I commented on article in local paper that I said could have been written in Bay Area, not TX. He said Austin was not really in TX, just surrounded by it…. Although having seen political district maps…
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I absolutely refuse to work in TX or FL unless it is for one very specific job opportunity with one specific group: NASA. That is the ONLY reason I would ever move to those horrible states.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

The GOP constantly trips over the 1A on their way to the altar where they worship the 2A
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Reading the story, I was aghast how deeply fear has crept into the minds of students and Deans alike in Texas for simply speaking up. The „Land of the Free“? Where just one call denigrating a renowned Professor is enough to shatter a hard earned career to pieces?

If simply listing facts and figures and consequences of political decisions is enough to loose your job, one can come to the conclusion that this is „suppression by fear“. Especially at universities, this is highly alarming.

in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I was a professor at Texas A&M for approximately 7 years and this kind of "attitude" around the place was one of the main reasons I left several years ago.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

my guess is corporations are have similar issues retaining and recruiting and will pull out of Texas
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

this is shocking & horrific, reminiscent of a political state like communist Russia or nazi Germany, what’s next? Is Texas no longer a democracy? Does the Bill of rights no longer apply there? Was the American Revolution for nothing?
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

When reading the full article (worth while), you feel like being caught in a world as described by the author Kafka.

I never believed this could turn real, but obviously it does.

B.t.w. is Kafka already banned in the US?

Asking for a friend.

P.S. if not, it’s definitely a must to do so.

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