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I've set up thelounge again, for #IRC, since I'm not happy with Matrix.

github.com/thelounge/thelounge

#irc
in reply to Nathan Schneider

@ntnsndr Element is actively promoting its services to police and state security.

While you can have an independent Matrix server, in practice there's a lot of centralization around the Element client, matrix.org, and Element Matrix Services.
mastodon.matrix.org/@element/1…
mastodon.matrix.org/@element/1…
mastodon.matrix.org/@element/1…

in reply to FoolishOwl

Yeah, I use it on a self-hosted server and self-hosted client.
in reply to Nathan Schneider

@ntnsndr Yeah, in that use case, you're probably okay.

But for most people, using Matrix means downloading Element and getting an account on matrix.org. And I feel I have to discourage that.

Lo, thar be cookies on this site to keep track of your login. By clicking 'okay', you are CONSENTING to this.

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