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I have some ecosystem questions, aimed toward trying to see how I can help contribute.

Maybe boost this to help us all learn?

* What gatherings or online spaces are connecting fediverse devs and admins? What is needed?

* Where can one find people developing products and business models to support the ecosystem? Any pitch opportunities out there?

* How can we help to make the economies of the fediverse more explicit, rather than waiting for VCs to swoop in and commercialize for us?
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Darius Kazemi
Darius Kazemi
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I am unaware of anything that connects admins and devs specifically, and that is really necessary!

socialhub.activitypub.rocks is dev centric

The newly rebooted public-swicg@w3.org mailing list is too new to pin down

The Mastodon discord has probably the most cross pollination between the two groups but is Mastodon focused

umm hard to even think of other spaces that are out there. It's pretty dire
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jonny
jonny
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@darius I want a space like this. points to the need for groups and circles on the fedi, but in the meantime if we want to get everyone in a matrix or discord then I am freaking there
@Darius Kazemi
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Lutin Discret
Lutin Discret
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@jonny Discord? Matrix is the place to be: the ActivityPub community there has 45 rooms and 220+ members (not counting the members of the rooms who are not in the matrix space, maybe thousands users total)

@darius @ntnsndr
@Darius Kazemi @Nathan Schneider @jonny
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Darius Kazemi
Darius Kazemi
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@lutindiscret @jonny I hate realtime chat so much, I so am loathe to bring another IRC-style thing into my life but I guess I need to swallow the pill
@Lutin Discret @jonny
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Nathan Schneider
Nathan Schneider
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@darius @lutindiscret @jonny Matrix is less bad than it could be. And it has threads now, so closer to something like a chat/forum hybrid.
@Darius Kazemi @Lutin Discret @jonny
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jonny
jonny
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@darius @lutindiscret and discord <groan I know c'mon> also introduced proper forumlike threads which actually rocks and I think basically every chat thing and also miceoblogging thing should do
@Darius Kazemi @Lutin Discret
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Industriebotaniker
Industriebotaniker
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@christina
It is often said FOSS alternatives would lack accessible UX and aesthetics. There might be potential for a platform coop of developers and admins dedicated to further develop features that would fill this gap.
@christina b
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Nathan Schneider
Nathan Schneider
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@Paul030 @christina Sounds fun! I guess the issue in my view is that the problem with FOSS and UX is that FOSS projects can't afford to pay for good UX work. I'm not sure a co-op would fix that, since the workers would still want to be paid.
@christina b @Industriebotaniker
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Shou
Shou
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@Paul030 @christina I guess it could solve the issue of having zero access to UX designers? If a platform cooperative provides shared access to a single (or a few) UX designers who receive monetary support via coop membership fees, that could be useful -- in that they could look at each project, and address common problems over time by e.g. producing monthly reports.
@christina b @Industriebotaniker
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glenn poppe
glenn poppe
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there’s growing overlap with web3 / dao builder community ir seems (eg kernel, farcaster, lens, gitcoin).

i think we’ll see an explosion of new decentralized / “cozy web” social tools soon when the crypto is abstracted away. business models are tbd but likely token-based. i think ethereum community is closest to answers for community-based public goods funding.

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