Me: i'll enjoy an evening of games after updating
Fedora: nah, we pushed a broken Mesa update to everyone
joy
reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/1…
This type of thing should not happen.
⇧
Me: i'll enjoy an evening of games after updating
Fedora: nah, we pushed a broken Mesa update to everyone
joy
reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/1…
This type of thing should not happen.
Pie-jacker875
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Joe 🦁
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Big Kumera Energy
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Jason Evangelho 🐧🎒
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •This is the kind of thing that doesn't exactly make it a cakewalk to evangelize Linux 🤣
I'm on Bazzite... I want to assume this update won't make it past their maintainers.
Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Multiple issues were reported, and someone still pushed it through...
bodhi.fedoraproject.org/update…
FEDORA-2025-82b66363b4 — unspecified update for mesa — Fedora Updates System
bodhi.fedoraproject.orgRandom
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •hadtobeonthejukebox
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Warthunder
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Marcus The Board Gamer
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Couple of weeks ago I tried Fedora. It shat itself after an update. I am now running Kubuntu* with no real issues (aside from my brain is still stuck on macOS keyboard shortcuts. But that’s decades upon decades of Mac experience)
I want KDE Plasma. Not Gnome and not Cinnamon (was tempted by Mint though)
Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Anthropy
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •100% agreed, a friend of mine went back to Mint with its ancient packages over this, and I can't even blame them
@fedora needs to see this before it turns into a PR issue
Anthropy
in reply to Anthropy • • •Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to Anthropy • • •bmaxv
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •@anthropy @fedora
"Those reports probably come from a system that was configured in a weird and esoteric way, probably doesn't impact 'real users', we don't need to fix those. 🧐 "
🤣 #linux
(Just to be sure, this is meant as friendly banter, because I think it's ironic.)
Synnef
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •it's like when they tried to kill 32 bit multilib because "you can just use the Steam flatpak instead" all over again 🙏
i'm glad i opened mastodon and saw this before updating lol
FynnND
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •I really wish they was like an option to Fedora that is like Fedora, just with better leadership
I like Tumbleweed, but it doesn't have the software I need and want
Cachy/Arch is too unreliable for what I want
Debian/Ubuntu are too slow with updates
Best I would know might be Debian unstable or PikaOS, but idk how they are in terms of reliability compared to Fedora
Krutonium://
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to Krutonium:// • • •Is most recent Mesa push to stable (mesa-25.2.7-2.fc43) reasonable?
Fedora DiscussionChristof Damian 💙💛
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Get Shown The Light
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •sudo dnf downgrade mesa\*
It's quite a common thing with Fedora and particularly steam games not running after Mesa updates.
Mugita Sokio
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •doragasu
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •DistroWatch
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •While I ympathize over the frustration, Fedora is a testing ground for new technologies. It's intentionally bleeding edge. If you're running Fedora you're signing up to beta test and should expect bugs.
It would be different if a person were running an LTS release or even a stable short-term release, then stuff like this shouldn't get pushed through. But with Fedora it's in its nature.
Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to DistroWatch • • •@distrowatch that is not the reality of how it is advertised and presented to users
"A customizable high-quality desktop, built on the latest open source technology. Trusted, powerful and easy."
That's how they describe it.
And further down, in a bold heading:
"Reliable"
Something can't be a "testing ground" and be reliable.
DistroWatch
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •I agree, something can't be a testing ground and reliable.
Fedora is a testing ground, therefore it cannot be reliable.
How they describe or advertise their distro doesn't really have anything to do with reality then, does it? Almost every Linux distro describes itself as "reliable, secure, fast, efficient, etc". That doesn't make it true.
Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to DistroWatch • • •DistroWatch
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Thomas Lemarchand
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Fedora is absolutely necessary for advancement of Linux on the desktop.
AndroidUserCu
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Was Ubuntu that bad that I got into an unstable os that cannot know how much battery time is left?
Warthunder
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Dave Airlie
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to Dave Airlie • • •Superboom
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Florian
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Kevin Wammer
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Since I'm currently playing with Linux (Bazzite KDE on my gaming rig) and quite like it, would you recommend against Fedora after what happened to you?
I could just use Bazzite or Aurora, but people recommend against immutable distros when starting out, so Fedora KDE was what I wanted to maybe go for.
Kyle Gospodnetich
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •this is the same project that allowed one contributor to damage their reputation long-term by trying to remove 32-bit support across the entire project for the (now) next release of Fedora while Steam and most of the games on it are still 32-bit applications -- and only because their build system is so bad that they can't selectively build 32-bit stuff.
They don't care about the golden goose Linux has been gifted that is gaming.