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A few years ago, the BBC compared the amount of time that men & women spoke in the films that won best picture at the #Oscars between 1991-2016. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-43197774
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Even in movies that I remember for their women, men talks the most! Maybe we need more women screenwriters…
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

and yet it's such a mystery why the world is so messed up...

/s
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

has anyone updated this? As much as things don't feel great it would probably be useful to see what changes have (or have not) occurred in 7 years.
in reply to david || matt

@mattematica agree. I don’t know of an update, but would be interested to see how things look in 2023.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

If the BBC #AltText sucks [I don't know how to find it], feel free, anyone, to ask me to take a crack at it. This shit's important. #AltText4You
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I'd guess that Everything Everywhere All At Once might blow Chicago out of the water. I'd be shocked to hear otherwise.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Considering how few words men speak in real life on a day to day basis (compared to women) this seems stupid.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

For those aware of the issue, one of the things Motherland: Fort Salem did was invert the crowd ratios.

I.e. unless forced otherwise movie crowds are 4 men to 1 woman. (Check out any 80s movie like Ghostbusters.) They reversed those ratios and it was so weird feeling something out of place but then spotting it.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

So are these just movies personally picked from your collection? Because I am sure there are a bunch of movies where women have large roles.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

wtf that's crazy. The last 3 years nomadland, coda and EEAO are hopefully a sign of change though
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Using the Hollywood Foreign press as a litmus for what is good is problematic. In the last decade I could probably name other movies that were not nominated that had better story arcs. A lot with female protagonists i.e. more screen time. We need better writers that can create great stories where imperfect women and men succeed in spite of their flaws. Now if you will excuse me I'm going to go replay Horizon Zero Dawn again.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Almost looks like there's a huge backlash after every win that has a lot of women time.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I don't think this had been made to be deliberate...but it is concerning and needs to be addressed, changed and give woman more screen time.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

Did they run the data any further back, do you know? I'd love to see the screwball era compared to now (hell, this is one place where even Gone With The Wind would look good...)
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

very interesting analysis. Hope is changes some people’s thinking.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

I think I recall a study that showed that, when faced with a crowd shot, it had to be like 70- 80% men before people considered it "evenly split". Asking for snap judgements on gender splits (visually or listening to people speak) showed the same - - men and women both thought an equal split was tilted towards women, up until about 70/30 or 80/20.
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum

That's because Florida won't allow women to talk about their periods. Without a prohibition, that's all we would rather discuss, month after month after month.

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