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Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.
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Cassandrich
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72 hours is pretty short notice. Isn't standard practice for responsible defederation in the range of a few weeks notice at least?
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Cassandrich
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Cassandrich
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@Iwillyeah We all understand that. However since it severs your users' relationships, standard practice for a responsible instance is that you give sufficient notice that people can move if they don't want their relationships severed.
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Ghost Letters
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@dalias @Iwillyeah
I second that.

In the end it is very hard to judge the "correct" time frame. Especially, because there is no official reason given beyond "neglected server".

The reasons listed in this thread revolve around: 'The server is un-moderated for several month or even years'. Okay that is bad - but why such a 72h hurry? If this problem is going on for such a long time - some more weeks won't kill us.

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Cassandrich
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@ghost_letters @Iwillyeah The correct time frame should be long enough for the cooldown timer between moving to a new instance to reset. Otherwise anyone who recently moved is screwed.
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Iwillyeah
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@dalias @ghost_letters I think 30 days is a long time to ask an instance to stay federated with another instance they don't want to be federated with. Your duty really is to the users of your own instance, not some other offending instance, imo, but I get why people are annoyed. Big difference between 72hrs and 30days.
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Cassandrich
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@Iwillyeah @ghost_letters This is part of your duty to users of your own instance. If they recently moved to your instance, they shouldn't be stuck with you severing their relationships while they can't leave.
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Cassandrich
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@Iwillyeah @ghost_letters I agree it's a long time, but this is why we should have better controls to limit harm from a soon-to-be-defederated instance (like no new follows from that instance, no interactions except for existing relationships) during the lead-up to full defed.
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