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It's pretty crazy Valve can give a game a Steam Deck Playable rating, give it a special banner on the Steam page to note it's a most-played game on Steam Deck....and then the developer can just add anti-cheat, not enable it and tell people it was never officially supported huh?

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/grand-theft-auto-v-gets-battleye-anti-cheat-breaks-online-play-on-steam-deck-linux/


Grand Theft Auto V gets BattlEye anti-cheat, breaks online play on Steam Deck / Linux

Surprisingly, Rockstar have now added BattlEye anti-cheat to Grand Theft Auto V, and sadly it seems they have not enabled the support for Linux desktop and Steam Deck with Valve's Proton.
Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
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seyon
seyon
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I guess that thing will be solved pretty soon by Microsoft (who would tell): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-paves-the-way-for-Linux-gaming-success-with-plan-that-would-kill-kernel-level-anti-cheat.888345.0.html
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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
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@seyon no it won't https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/microsoft-windows-kernel-changes-dont-suddenly-mean-big-things-for-linux-gaming/

Microsoft Windows kernel changes don't suddenly mean big things for Linux gaming

There's a lot of blog posts and news articles being written right now centred around Microsoft's plans for updates to Windows 11, and potential kernel changes, with some thinking this means big things for Linux gaming.
Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
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seyon
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Nothing there confirms one thing or the other 😀
https://steamdeckhq.com/news/we-may-see-end-of-kernel-level-anti-cheat/

I guess time will tell.


We May See The End of Kernel-Level Anti-Cheat Soon - Steam Deck HQ

A new post from Microsoft mentions that they may want to move away from kernel-level anti-cheat after the CrowdStrike fiasco.
Noah Kupetsky (Steam Deck HQ)
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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
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@seyon I'll just point again, to the article of mine i linked you to, everyone is wrong on this, developers don't need kernel-level to block Linux, it means nothing for us
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Bacteria
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Well there goes my 10 bucks. I think I am just gonna avoid buying multiplayer online games even if they work on Linux unless the game is listed as officially supported on Linux like CS2.

Unfortuantely I hate to play solo. Online gaming is fun because I can chat with my friends.

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Bacteria
Bacteria
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This is surely going to make things salty who bought GTA V exclusively for Steam Deck.
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Bacteria
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The other day I was thinking about GTA 6 and was sure that Rockstar will definetly enable Anti-Cheat on online mode.

I was not expecting GTA V to get that treatment. But having seen the amount of cheating on GTA V, it is justified. I myself always played with Closed Friends Session to keep cheaters out.

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Jaxay
Jaxay
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hoping they didn't block linux intentionally and fix it soon 🙏🙏🙏
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Cosvak
Cosvak
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It's like Rockstar is just fucking over any person on Linux or has proper security measures on their computer.
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unexpectedteapot
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time and time again, I have to repeat this to free operating system users: games that don't support any system outside of Windows and Mac don't care about you, you're not even second class citizen. Proton/Wine is a bypass you use and others made. They don't give a dime to the developers of Proton/Wine or any kind of software that you're using to run their games. They don't give a shit.
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Danil
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First time?
Before it was Riot-games.
Before it was Bungie.
Before it was Blizzard.
EU, Ubisoft and every other large game company - all of the "broke" linux support at some point for many of their online games for last 10 years.
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eanopolsky
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not to downplay how disappointing this must be for GTA V Online players, but as a long time Linux gamer (~20 years at this point) I'm not worried about having to boot into Windows any time soon. There are so many games that work effortlessly on Linux thanks to Steam and Proton that I'm never going to run out of entertainment, even if I can't play everything. It's a night and day improvement over wine in 2004.
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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
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- rockstar press hasn’t replied
- their support team just copy pasted the new FAQ entry to me and washed their hands of it
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Benjamin
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the wording of the FAQ regarding the Steam deck also reads a bit like "We don't give a f..."
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Leandro (Cerberus1746)
Leandro (Cerberus1746)
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Have you tried to contact valve?
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Bakunin Boys
Bakunin Boys
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@cerberus1746 yeah, Valve really need to have an opinion on this. It's a top 10 game on their console platform. They can't be laissez faire on this. They care about their customers in other ways, so this is the same. It really undermines the Steam support levels.
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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
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@bakuninboys @cerberus1746 I have contacted Valve, waiting on a reply, and I will be doing a further article to discuss the situation but have to wait on Valve for a reply (or no reply) and see how long it takes them to update the Steam Deck rating too
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Leandro (Cerberus1746)
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@bakuninboys Let's hope they answer.

I think they will take a bit because sadly it is a big issue for them too.

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Professor Code
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Honestly, this is why I use GOG to buy my games whenever possible.

As long as I have the offline installer backed up, I know my game will continue to work as expected.

#DRMfree #GOG #LinuxGaming #Linux

#linux #linuxgaming #gog #drmfree
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Fishd
Fishd
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one more name to add to my list of "no more money from me"...

Bungie
Epic
Microsoft
Rockstar

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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
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To people who keep saying Microsoft are removing kernel-level stuff, it won't solve the situation, which I already wrote about:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/microsoft-windows-kernel-changes-dont-suddenly-mean-big-things-for-linux-gaming/


Microsoft Windows kernel changes don't suddenly mean big things for Linux gaming

There's a lot of blog posts and news articles being written right now centred around Microsoft's plans for updates to Windows 11, and potential kernel changes, with some thinking this means big things for Linux gaming.
Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
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sharkcheese
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It won't solve it directly, but if win32 games are forced to abandon proprietary kernel anti-cheat in place of some kind of standardized Windows API, then potentially that API could be implemented on Linux/Wine.

A lot of other things need to fall in place for that to happen, though. I've been wondering what Valve were going to do about this for a while, I've speculated that maybe SteamOS could ship with a signed kernel, secure boot, remote attestation and run games in secure VMs?

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