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Another reason to hate #Apple We're seeing more 2018+ MacBook Pro/Air donations — but Apple's T2 chip means even after iCloud sign-out and reset, the firmware stays locked to the original account.

Without donor contact, these machines are useless. 🙁

I've upcycled ~1,000 older Macs, but T2 era machines will end that. It's controlling, creates e-waste, and will only get worse. #righttorepair matters — Apple couldn't care less.

Stack of t2 era macbooks all locked
#Apple #righttorepair
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aglimme
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aglimme
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@Gargron Oh no all the stolen MacBooks are useless, what will we do!?!? Honestly all snark aside I’d love for the market for stolen Macs to go down more than the recycle market to go up.
@Eugen Rochko
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Mike
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Mike
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@aglimme @Gargron do you even know how big of an issue stolen macs are? I bet you don't!

Also, i'm not saying lets just unlock them all. But it should be EASIER for the legit user to release it.. remotely from their icloud account.

You can have both security and reusability

@Eugen Rochko @aglimme
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Eugen Rochko
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Eugen Rochko
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@aglimme I'm going to go even further: e-waste is a much bigger problem than MacBook theft. Right to repair should be universal.
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Epic Null
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@Gargron @aglimme If this was really about theft, then a user with a stolen macbook would be able to use it to contact the owners for purposes of return.
@Eugen Rochko @aglimme
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Mike
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Mike
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@Epic_Null @Gargron @aglimme exactly.

Like how hard would it be to, at that screen, have a button that says "contact user" or "request to unlock"

And then the user gets a secure message asking them if they lost this mac or if they want to unlock it for the new owner?

Seems doable!

@Eugen Rochko @Epic Null @aglimme
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aglimme
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@Epic_Null @Gargron I totally agree that there should be a mechanism to totally unlock the machine, this however, sounds like a great way to harass someone. Steal their laptop or phone, then constantly ask to unlock. Seeing that pop-up over and over would be so annoying. Also laptop theft from cafes where I live is definitely a significant issue. Just want to point out that there are legitimate reason to brick hardware.
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Eugen Rochko
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Eugen Rochko
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@aglimme @Epic_Null It's a machine. It should turn on when you press power. Apple's involvement should end when you exchange money for the device.
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Epic Null
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@Gargron @aglimme "Not something I like/agree with/accept" and "Not what it's being sold as" are two different concepts. The latter just happens to be a more convincing argument when talking to people who may have different expectations.
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Rajas
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@Gargron @aglimme the one reason to password lock the bootloader would be to DETER theft if people know it will be useless to them to steal it. But there should definitely be an option given to the device owner to disable this.
@Eugen Rochko @aglimme

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