If your industry (AI) can only exist by ripping the work of others without credit, then it shouldn't exist.
The big companies are just steamrolling over the rights of everyone because they're getting away with it. Governments have been cowardly to act on this.
Lorenzo Strambi
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Joe
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Maudelix
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Atrapado🌴🍫
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Bernie
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •I thought we were all opposed to copyright overreach until recently? 🙃
More seriously: I think a reasonably limited form of copyright could indeed stimulate creative work and benefit society, but the long-established fair use doctrine must not be eroded in order to harm AI or other industries we dislike today.
Out of Print Archive (meppi64)
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Reinald Kirchner
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •A) we can create a universal good income (not just basic!) for everybody, and get rid of all IP restrictions. And, subsequently, capitalism for amassing wealth. Sounds reasonable.
B) the LLM companies need to pay for their stolen IP or die. Sounds reasonable.
C) they let everybody living on IP-Work die. Artists, Coders, Scientists. Humanity will stall -- LLMs don't create anything new. Now art, no science, no nothing. They just repeat.
Idaho
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Mistor Jog Jog
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •rexi
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •knew this was coming.
next they will claim national security as endangered if they can't siphon off creative works.
wait.
brandoncarey
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in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •No.
Hacker
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Nick Clegg is a liar and wants to get away with the swag.
In the EU we have trained models with the permission to use the work of others.
Glad to see so many posts telling this moron to shut up.
Capricious Day
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •yep. Either enforce copyright fairly, especially on those who'd profit from abusing the works of others, or do fully automated luxury communism
This middle ground where billionaires get a free pass and everyone else is expected to toil in increasingly uncreative industries is what's unworkable
Gabriele Svelto [moved]
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •It’s just conservatism.
According to #wilhoitslaw, conservatism consists of only a single principle:
There should be an in-group which the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group which the law binds but does not protect.
There is no modernity, no enlightenment, no rule of law. It’s the old divine right of kings, unchanged by centuries.
xs4me2
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •You simply cannot be stealing other people’s ideas and creations and make money out of it with no idea on their consent or compensation…
It is just ridiculous…
Without any idea on that there is no industry, it is just theft.
Robin Barton
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in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Bill
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Fan of Shared Truth & Empathy
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Sharp Leaves
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •so copyright law will disrupt the AI industry? Move fast and break things? Cut the green tape? Empower creators?
Funny how actual work never gets described that way, but when the 1% are grifting us, dying industries are suddenly an inevitable consequence of their genius. Nick Clegg needs bricks thrown at everything he owns, starting with his head, fuck these parasites and their mouthpieces .
(hypothetical bricks of harmless internet words, of course, a thought experiment).
James
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