We need to talk about this! 😟
https://news.itsfoss.com/mastodon-link-problem/
Please Don’t Share Our Links on Mastodon: Here’s Why!
We need to talk about this problem. Should Mastodon step up?Ankush Das (It's FOSS News)
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𝖆𝖒𝖆𝖗𝖔𝖐 🇨🇿🇪🇺
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Another temporary solution (instead of blocking Mastodon user-agent) could be blocking all media sent to that agent, to decrease traffic.
I hope there will be a fix sooner than later, this is a really bad side effect of #Mastodon. BTW what about other #fediverse back-ends, same issue?
Daniel Schier 🐧🍪
in reply to It's FOSS • • •very honestly?
My issue with itsfoss is not about being unreachable occasionally. It is the massive wall of adds. So much that some browsers reload your page multiple times before being able to read a mere 300 words article.
And so much that I am almost seeing the adds for diapers, watches, adobe products and temu intimidating that I want to opt out of your page.
7 adds in this article alone!
SomeAnoTooter
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Ric Harvey 🇪🇺🌍💚
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Yaksh Bariya
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Martina Neumayer
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Just report this problem to Mastodon support and wait for the fix/solution from them. You can also temporarily use some url shortener/redirect service.
looopTools
in reply to It's FOSS • • •nickelson
in reply to It's FOSS • • •imo it will be way simpler if the thumbnail is generated once (when initially posted) and then stored on that original instance. And when the post is viewed/boosted that stored thumbnail will be transferred along instead of re-generating from the source url.. 🤔
Dashtop
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Paul Tourville
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Nordnick :verified:
in reply to It's FOSS • • •IMHO this is not specific to #Mastodon... not even to a federated system.
It could also happen, if an URL of your site would be mentioned for example in an article on an online news portal with a large user base... then starting to visit your site.
So any unusual peak in traffic...
Bit_form
in reply to It's FOSS • • •sarcastictoast
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Today it's Mastodon and if @itsfoss can't handle the query/response then the ball is in your court. Balancing and such.
Surely you are not saying that it only takes like maybe ten users (at a time) to share a link and you're DDOSed??
Mighty Orbot
in reply to It's FOSS • • •@Teri_Kanefield This sounds like a familiar problem….
https://mastodon.social/@itsfoss/112364520275421073
It's FOSS
2024-05-01 06:55:12
Felipe M.
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Firecat
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Alejandro 🇦🇲 🇪🇭 🇵🇸
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Mitsunee | 光音
in reply to It's FOSS • • •I've hosted a popular gaming website on the free hobby tier on vercel for years and never had any load issues even around the biggest events of the year which nearly knocked out 80% of my monthly bandwidth within 3 days. Clearly whatever you are using isn't worth the money.
Edit: might as well mention that this was a Next.js page using the old pages API with full hydration and every page what images in the meta tags too
Chris Rosenau
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Evan Boehs
in reply to It's FOSS • • •This is ridiculous. My website served dynamic content to 1 million visitors for 30 cents a few weeks ago. It remained responsive. If all 18k instances on the fedi requested my site, it would cost half a cent.
You should look into changing whatever hosting provider you have to something that's more economical or powerful. Your ads could fund this. If Mastodon can DDoS you, a bad actor easily could.
In addition, you can cache HTML for mastodon via Cloudflare: https://developers.cloudflare.com/cache/troubleshooting/customize-caching/#before-you-begin
Customize Caching · Cloudflare Cache (CDN) docs
Cloudflare DocsDavid Marzal
in reply to It's FOSS • • •carto
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to It's FOSS • • •We have many many times your followers, often have posts massively shared, and never encountered a problem with it.
What are you server specs?
It's FOSS
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 • • •Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Shtgaus
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Wow, that's tiny 🤯 (considering how popular your websites are)
Robb Knight
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Demiurg
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Kagan MacTane (he/him)
in reply to It's FOSS • • •I saw the headline and was prepared for some kind of entitled or otherwise stupid thing, but when I read what his reason was, I immediately became a convert. I understand his problem.
If main Mastodon doesn't fix this soon, maybe the upcoming hard fork can prioritize it? @are0h
chuang
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Etam
in reply to It's FOSS • • •I was involved once in hosting a Ghost blog and it was a must.
The Benefits of Microcaching with NGINX - NGINX
Web Team (NGINX, Inc.)Graham Lea
in reply to It's FOSS • • •It's FOSS
in reply to Graham Lea • • •@evolvable, why do you think an end user of an open source project should also be capable of fixing issues in the project's codebase?
By this logic, only developers should use an open source project or they should keep their mouths shut about the issues they encounter.
Graham Lea
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Luna Lactea
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Maho Pacheco 🦝🍻
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Your page loads 6MB of data with uBlock Origin, 55MB without it and never stops piling on more and more. Seems to load some Google Ads garbage over and over again?
In the time between the first sentence and now, it loaded 30MB more data. Please fix your site.
Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:
in reply to Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong: • • •Amber
in reply to Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong: • • •Amber
in reply to Amber • • •It's FOSS
in reply to Amber • • •johnteachestech
in reply to It's FOSS • • •If this were true, why are you yourself sharing it on Mastodon?
This is highly inaccurate misinformation, and I'm assuming the people whom work there know enough about computers to know this.
Please issue a correction and an apology.
It's FOSS
in reply to johnteachestech • • •@johnteachestech This is not an inaccurate misinformation.
You can check for yourself: https://aumetra.xyz/posts/the-fedi-ddos-problem
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/11/mastodon-stampede/
https://github.com/simonw/simonwillisonblog/issues/415
https://mstdn.social/@stux/112346188861924441
Traffic to /.well-known/webfinger is overwhelming Heroku · Issue #415 · simonw/simonwillisonblog
GitHubjohnteachestech
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Ok maybe its not misinformation that its a ddos threat for YOUR current servers, but to imply that it's a Mastodon issue and not an Its FOSS issue, is misleading and inaccurate.
A single website visitor from twitter could ddos a server if its weak enough, but Mastodon itself is even run on home lab servers.
If you want to republish the article as 'It's FOSS isn't willing to put a very small amount of effort into scaling to support FOSS social media users' then it would be accurate.
Look, It's FOSS is a great publication and people like it, myself included. Don't let one bad article tarnish the reputation.
αxel simon ↙︎↙︎↙︎
in reply to It's FOSS • • •Erlend Sogge Heggen
in reply to It's FOSS • • •XAG.info 🖥📱💻⚙️
in reply to It's FOSS • • •It's FOSS
in reply to XAG.info 🖥📱💻⚙️ • • •@XAGinfo Not sharing our links is more of an expression than a literal meaning.
Can we stop people from sharing links, no, right? We don't have that power.
- Ankush
Neon
in reply to It's FOSS • • •If you don't want to get this traffic, stop offering up public link previews. You are the ones choosing to provide that metadata.
Someone has to pay for the bandwidth spent on distributing your link previews. You're the ones who monetise from clicks to your website- why don't you pay for it by getting better hosts?
But no, you write this rent-seeking post insisting that Mastodon instances (many of whom do this for free) should let you freeload your rich presence traffic. Shameful.
akiva
in reply to It's FOSS • • •phryk 🏴
in reply to It's FOSS • • •I've noticed that when sharing links to my own website, but I thought this was more of a me-problem with the sites performance.
Will be interesting to see how that'll pan out with the new site I'm currently building…