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“Vote NO on Woman Suffrage” 🙄

Not ancient #history, but just a century ago.

Source: State Archives of North Carolina

#history
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Alistair Davidson
Alistair Davidson
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Wow, "petticoat rule" is a new one on me. Also: "can only double or annul their husbands' votes" is genuinely incredible sophistry.
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David Croyle
David Croyle
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Staggering gibberish that some would undoubtedly still support today...
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eclectech
eclectech
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The good thing about being reminded about things like this, and how recent they are, is that it gives me hope that we will move on from where we currently are so in 100 years people look at things happening today with a similar feeling of disbelief.
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Timo
Timo
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Not just 'petticoat rule' but Evil may happen. Evil petticoat rule.
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Berel Youdovich 😷💉🚫♻️🦠
Berel Youdovich 😷💉🚫♻️🦠
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So they actually thought someone would buy those arguments, huh?

Now read again the reasoning of their day and then tell me how it's always perfectly appropriate to judge yesterday's thinking by today's standards.

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aethervision
aethervision
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I thought Petticoat Rule was just a thing that happened in Petticoat Junction #TheMoreYouKnow
#themoreyouknow
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athe52
athe52
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I feel like similar tactics were used with the whole "Vote No to the Voice" thing that happened in Australia a few days ago. One of the flyers I got in the mail had something similar to #6 if I remember correctly.
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Peter Christensen
Peter Christensen
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Astonishing. It’s all terrible, but points 3 and 5 are especially vile. And the fact is, Roe vs. Wade was 50 years ago, and those rights are being rolled back in many places. We must not let our guards down!
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mjc0961
mjc0961
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And loads of MAGA women have no idea that if they make progress on other goals they want, they'll eventually lose this. "I never thought the leopards would eat my face!"
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Katzedecimal
Katzedecimal
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"Votes of women can accomplish no more than votes of men" is a hell of a way to say "yeah voting is useless period"
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Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud
Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud
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Phew. Thanks for the clarification. I assumed it was part of the current RNC platform.
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Scott, present & accounted for
Scott, present & accounted for
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This sounds similar to the thinking of the current GOP in Texas and Florida.
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Joe Quinlan 🇵🇸 🇮🇪
Joe Quinlan 🇵🇸 🇮🇪
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21st Century Christofascists want to steal the right to vote from American women. Stealing their reproductive rights is only the beginning.
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Runyan50
Runyan50
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If it wasn’t for women’s suffrage, Trump would be serving his second term, and then a third, fourth and so on.
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Alun Parsons
Alun Parsons
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talking about not ancient history, women got the vote in Switzerland in 1971. And in the canton of Appenzell Innerrhoden, women didn't get the vote until 1990, and that was only due to a decision by the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland.
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Donovan Young
Donovan Young
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"can only double or annul" if true, is necessarily also a property of all sets of votes of cardinality two!
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Bernd
Bernd
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Speaking of "Just a Century ago" ...

In the Swiss canton of Appenzell Innerrhoden, women gained the right to vote only in 1990. That's right, not 1890. 1990! And only by intervention of the Supreme court.
And even for federal elections, women (in all cantons) have been allowed to vote only since 1971, which is also a damn shame for such an ostensibly modern country.

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Phil Landmeier
Phil Landmeier
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I particularly like the vacuous third argument.

These kinds of arguments are still used today and people see nothing wrong with it because they haven't learned to think.

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Vidar Hokstad / Galaxy Bound
Vidar Hokstad / Galaxy Bound
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I love how they managed to both argue women's votes could accomplish nothing and was pointless, *and* raise the spectre of "petticoat rule" and the supposed risk of "the evil which may occur".

The classic self-contradictory myth of how [insert group they're against today] is simultaneously feebleminded and unable to do anything of consequence *and* at the same time a bunch of evil, dangerous schemers so regularly relied on by bigots in any time period.

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Bodhipaksa
Bodhipaksa
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I love the doublethink in “women don’t want to vote” and “women will outvote men.”
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Aleks
Aleks
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100 years? Try 50—at least in quaint little Switzerland. Here are a couple of posters. I've included translations in the alt text.

(YES, Switzerland gained women's suffrage in 1971)

A woman in the archetype of a shrew with an exasperated expression. The TEXT reads: Do you want women like that? Women's suffrage, NO.
Painting of a girl in torn clothes, dirty, unkempt, picking her nose. The text reads: Mama, when will you come home? Women's suffrage NO!
A painting of a black cat in a crib while the child is falling out of it. The room is generally untidy. Caption: Mother is doing politics.
A picture of a pacifier with a fly on it. The caption is simply "Women's suffrage NO"
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Socialist Rococo Realism
Socialist Rococo Realism
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love the "double or annul" argument. Each one of us can only double or annul the vote of the guy next door so nobody should have votes
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Betsy Bee
Betsy Bee
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this reminds me of the no campaign in Australia that just won by an overwhelming majority.
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Stevens R Miller
Stevens R Miller
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I was certainly surprised when I learned who founded this organization.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171023074005/http://www.crusadeforthevote.org/naows-opposition

Opposition to Suffrage

Anti-suffrage views dominated among men and women through the early twentieth century. The National Association Opposed to Woman Suffrage did not form until 1911.
National Women's History Museum
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Khurram Wadee ✅
Khurram Wadee ✅
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Did these people also organize the No campaign for indigenous people’s rights in Australia?
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peterb
peterb
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Not gonna lie, being under petticoat rule sounds totally metal.
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MadisonMonkey
MadisonMonkey
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well I bet some people were like “I don’t want women to suffer, so I will vote no”
🤷‍♂️
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Randy Clayton
Randy Clayton
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have to admit not allowing one person to vote because their vote could only, “double or annul”, another persons vote is a durable argument.
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John Infante
John Infante
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My favorite part of this pamphlet is the assertion women’s votes aren’t any different from men’s votes, which is apparently a reason to not have equality. Like imagine an opponent of gay marriage saying “Gay marriage would be just the same as straight marriage, it wouldn’t be better, so we shouldn’t have it.”
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Sparrows
Sparrows
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Seeing the 'double or annul' line really drives home how messed up the two-party system we have is.
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Frank Reiff
Frank Reiff
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@siracusa I love the fact that Republicans haven’t even changed their arguments for a hundred years.

- it’s fine for us, so why change it?
- it would cost money
- disenfranchised groups either don’t want power or don’t care (the rest are troublemakers)
- it’d be different
- we’d have less power and then things might change

@John Siracusa
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Anna
Anna
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The last canton in Switzerland to give women the vote was forced to do so by the Swiss supreme court in 1990. (They got federal voting rights in 1971.)
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Saulo Alvarado
Saulo Alvarado
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here in Mexico we have an election and now we're gonna have the first Mexican woman president but the feminist movement in Latinamerica it's kinda like,,, you know...
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Comunidad bahá´í de Mexicali
Comunidad bahá´í de Mexicali
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Sigh. i also learned a couple of months ago when my wife gave a presentation that 'Abdu'l-Bahá, the Son of Bahá'u'lláh - Founder of the Bahá'í Faith, had been invited by many women suffrage groups in England when He was there to give talks and that at that time there were MORE women opposed to suffrage than for it!

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