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Friends, today is a good day to stop using chrome 😀
Download Firefox, reimport your bookmarks, set as default browser, replace chrome in all the places you launch it from muscle memory... I guarantee you wont miss anything from chrome, and you take one step away from Google owning the web.
20 minutes, tops.
mastodon.social/@Tutanota/1115…
faq for prospective repliers: neuromatch.social/@jonny/11152…
- For the love of god stop replying to just say "firefox bad" - when there is an actually legitimate criticism I'll happily link to it. The amount of nerd-sniping on the fedi makes me sad. On this and every other post, if you're about to say something negative or unpleasant, ask yourself "why am I saying this?" and "who is this for?" - if your answer is "to educate OP about browsers" please keep scrolling (unless you are trying to show me your rad new experimental p2p browser).
- Thank you to everyone being kind when asking/answering questions, y'all rock.
- Yes you should also change the default search to duckduckgo
- Yes you should switch even if you use gmail or other google services, the browser is a qualitatively different surveillance and advertising vector. cryptpad.fr is a solid google drive alternative
- No firefox isn't perfect
- The general point is to avoid browsers whose incentives are misaligned with yours - mozilla might not be perfect, but they're not an ad company. Apple/Safari i have less trust in, similarly with Brave. Vivaldi seems cool, DDG seems immature but also fine. All the rest are too small to be relevant to your average computer user (but by all means if you're curious u are free to make ur own decisions, all of those alternatives are better than Google).
- No I don't think google paying for chrome to be the default search engine delegitimizes firefox as a whole. Unless you think your single-maintainer favorite browser of choice can overcome the immense complexity of implementing a spec-compliant browser, the answer will remain "donate to mozilla so they're less reliant on search engine money" rather than "don't use firefox"
- Safari and Chrome blocking third party cookies is actually an attempt at capturing a captive advertising audience in the name of privacy, see here: neuromatch.social/@jonny/11152…
- Thank you to those who have already switched! good for u. plz refrain from shaming others who have not ❤
- Sorry to those who are for one reason or another stuck using chrome! Entrenched monopoly is a big problem in no small part because they try and engineer exactly those situations without choice, we'll build a better internet one day and topple the giants!
- I usually try and provide as much tech help/suggestions as I can but there are too many here, sorry!
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jonny (good kind)
in reply to jonny (good kind) • • •Having ublock origin on your mobile browser is a game changer - and soon Firefox will be the only way to get it on your desktop browser too.
Remember Google's plan described in discovery documents from one of its antitrust lawsuits: in the name of privacy, block 3rd party ads and use the dominance of chrome to only allow google ads at the browser level. Your browser choice is not a neutral choice, google sees it as an integral part of their strategy to monopolize ads, and with that the entire web.
jonny (good kind)
in reply to jonny (good kind) • • •- For the love of god stop replying to just say "firefox bad" - when there is an actually legitimate criticism I'll happily link to it. The amount of nerd-sniping on the fedi makes me sad. On this and every other post, if you're about to say something negative or unpleasant, ask yourself "why am I saying this?" and "who is this for?" - if your answer is "to educate OP about browsers" please keep scrolling (unless you are trying to show me your rad new experimental p2p browser).
... show more- Thank you to everyone being kind when asking/answering questions, y'all rock.
- Yes you should also change the default search to duckduckgo
- Yes you should switch even if you use gmail or other google services, the browser is a qualitatively different surveillance and advertising vector. cryptpad.fr is a solid google drive alternative
- No firefox isn't perfect
- The general point is to avoid browsers whose incentives are misaligned with yours - mozilla might not be perfect, but they're not an ad company. Apple/Saf
- For the love of god stop replying to just say "firefox bad" - when there is an actually legitimate criticism I'll happily link to it. The amount of nerd-sniping on the fedi makes me sad. On this and every other post, if you're about to say something negative or unpleasant, ask yourself "why am I saying this?" and "who is this for?" - if your answer is "to educate OP about browsers" please keep scrolling (unless you are trying to show me your rad new experimental p2p browser).
- Thank you to everyone being kind when asking/answering questions, y'all rock.
- Yes you should also change the default search to duckduckgo
- Yes you should switch even if you use gmail or other google services, the browser is a qualitatively different surveillance and advertising vector. cryptpad.fr is a solid google drive alternative
- No firefox isn't perfect
- The general point is to avoid browsers whose incentives are misaligned with yours - mozilla might not be perfect, but they're not an ad company. Apple/Safari i have less trust in, similarly with Brave. Vivaldi seems cool, DDG seems immature but also fine. All the rest are too small to be relevant to your average computer user (but by all means if you're curious u are free to make ur own decisions, all of those alternatives are better than Google).
- No I don't think google paying for chrome to be the default search engine delegitimizes firefox as a whole. Unless you think your single-maintainer favorite browser of choice can overcome the immense complexity of implementing a spec-compliant browser, the answer will remain "donate to mozilla so they're less reliant on search engine money" rather than "don't use firefox"
- Safari and Chrome blocking third party cookies is actually an attempt at capturing a captive advertising audience in the name of privacy, see here: neuromatch.social/@jonny/11152…
- Thank you to those who have already switched! good for u. plz refrain from shaming others who have not ❤
- Sorry to those who are for one reason or another stuck using chrome! Entrenched monopoly is a big problem in no small part because they try and engineer exactly those situations without choice, we'll build a better internet one day and topple the giants!
- I usually try and provide as much tech help/suggestions as I can but there are too many here, sorry!
CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite
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2023-12-04 19:09:39
Hubert Figuière
in reply to jonny (good kind) • • •is there an actual link to the document or to an article reporting on it (couldn't find one)?
People use to find me paranoid when I said it was the intent... (in a company that had all to lose with this)
jonny (good kind)
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •Yep - page 94, project NERA and the privacy sandbox
storage.courtlistener.com/reca…
"Google is trying to hide its true intentions behind a pretext of privacy.
Google does not actually put a stop to user profiling or targeted advertising—it puts Google’s Chrome browser at the center of tracking and targeting."