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Subject: What's going on with Meta?

To: @Gargron, @ruud, @jerry, @supernovae, @stux, @trumpet, @kev and other large instance admins

Rumors are tearing this place apart out here about secret deals with #Meta. The latest is that Meta has held #NDA meetings with some of you and they will federate with large instances under contracts providing financial support (1) (2).

This is a time for leadership, not silence. Please, what's going on?

(1) https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/110598855375585873
(2) https://mastodon.social/@alexeheath/110596207691212890

in reply to Mastodon Migration

I am not aware of any secret deals with Meta. As far as I can tell people are just making stuff up. There is little to comment on until Meta's platform launches.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

I'm aware that there's a conspiracy theory to support pretty much anyone's position.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

Great. Thank you. That's what we needed to hear. Please keep us informed with any details about their arrival and anything we can do to be prepared.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

Hi Eugen. "Secret deals" would imply finalised agreements. Your post tells us that there are none at the moment.

But have there been meetings between instance admins and Meta, and in those meetings, was there a discussion of funding / cost-sharing arrangements? Are your own instances ruling out financial payments from Meta? These questions may be based on rumour and speculation, but the easier it should be to clear them up once and for all. Thank you.

in reply to Eugen Rochko

not "deals", meeting. How can you not know any of this, if even dansup knows something? Could you elaborate?
in reply to Eugen Rochko

for my understanding, they (as far as get this) really can’t absorb a fediverse initiative, due to its open source and federated aspects. What I don’t get then, is « what’s in it for Meta »? Of course they want to extend their reach, but what’s the point (for them) to reach an as-free world like ours?
in reply to Eugen Rochko

Sorry to be picky, but that statement is not actually denying such meetings happened though is it?

Nor is it denying NDAs happened?

"There is little to comment on until Meta's platform launches" sounds very much like the phrase someone would use if an NDA has been signed on an upcoming product. Third party developers often say that phrase if they're discussing collaborations with large publishers.

If you want to deny these things specifically and directly, that would be great?

in reply to Eugen Rochko

It would mean a lot more if you state unequivocally that you are not entertaining, and will not entertain, any arrangements where FB pays for not getting defederated^W^W^Woffsetting the cost of the load they create or whatever.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

From a businss perspective Meta would want access by creating an instance so as to scrape data from subscribers to Mastodon. That's the first thing that Mastodon should watch out for.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

So you don't have a plan for it? If you do, what is it? Are you planning on asking us members what we want? Your silence is not working for you atm. Please talk to us.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

The way that so many are feverishly defederating when nothing has actually happened yet really annoys me. I made an additional account on another instance to placate those people, but I don't plan to quit this one.
in reply to Eugen Rochko

Hi,

maybe we could think "before" the launch, and build a strategy (all together ...) in case if something goes wrong. And what could go wrong with Meta? They are soo good guys!

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