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time to ring up my homeboy Karl Marx

Source: The "Screenshots > Good content" section of the Flathub quality AppData guidelines. Yes, actually.

https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-app-authors/appdata-guidelines/quality-guidelines#good-content

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A comparison from the Flathub appdata quality guidelines, showing an "unacceptable" screenshot and an "acceptable" one. The unacceptable one is the GNOME contacts app, with no content. The acceptable one is from the same app, but with contacts of prominent communist figures, with the contact of Karl Marx currently selected.
A screenshot of the GNOME contacts app, filled with contacts of prominent communist figures, currently focused on the contact of Karl Marx.

Quality guidelines | Flathub Documentation

The following guidelines are not required for submission to Flathub, but are best practices we recommend and consider for curation and promotion.
docs.flathub.org
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Lea
Lea
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On a more serious note, regardless of how you feel about those figures, this is just… weird, and I’m surprised that this got past any sort of review. Even more strange that this is the “correct” example of high quality content for a screenshot.
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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It's just pointless drama to use Karl Marx as an example, it serves the purpose but you know people are going to harass you for it. Just use a cat picture or AI generate a face
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Lea
Lea
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I mean, if it were me or fyra, I'd do cats or catgirls :3

completely agree though

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Jordan Petridis
Jordan Petridis
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@BrodieOnLinux What’s pointless is that attitude and instant “disapproval” of it as if it’s a serious matter or means anything.

You are trying to get ahead of the supposed “hate mail” and harassment of it as you give a shit and play the smartass, when in reality it’s yet another reactionary lip service masquerading as “apolitical” under the disguise of “caring for the project and the impact”

@Brodie Robertson
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Jordan Petridis
Jordan Petridis
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@BrodieOnLinux Newsflash, this says a lot more about the people making a fuss about it than who is depicted in the mockup.

The designers and people involved in the project are humans, not apolitical husks.

Politics are part of their everyday lives, work and shape the software that ends up in your desktop.

This is plain dehumanization on the basis of “omg this is not appropriate or not the time for it” and it’s done to serve a specific purpose, willingly or not.

Disgusting.

@Brodie Robertson
in reply to Jordan Petridis

Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@alatiera If a project used a picture of Hitler in the example would you think this is a good idea if that's there political stance
@Jordan Petridis
in reply to Brodie Robertson

Daimar Stein :sphealroll:
Daimar Stein :sphealroll:
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@BrodieOnLinux @alatiera jesus christ brodie, just take the L and realize that the video was in poor taste already
@Jordan Petridis @Brodie Robertson
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@joojmachine I don't want developers to get harrassed by people obssesed with politics because they decide to use a picture of Marx @alatiera @lea
@Jordan Petridis @Daimar Stein :sphealroll: @Lea
in reply to Brodie Robertson

Monster
Monster
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@BrodieOnLinux @joojmachine @alatiera Your videos have a larger effect on harassment of these developers than them using certain figures in an example image. Not saying it's your fault, but if you only slightly misrepresent something, people will blindly copy that. Yesterday there was someone that said "GNOME is the only one allowed in Flathub now" purely based on your video, going on a rant how GNOME is just power tripping. Being more explicit on what the guidelines are actually for (which is being just guidelines, not rules apps must follow) would've helped a lot to prevent people from spreading false judgements like this. Heck, perhaps even filing issues to improve the guidelines or talking to the developers could've been done before everything 😀
@Jordan Petridis @Daimar Stein :sphealroll: @Brodie Robertson
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@monster @joojmachine @alatiera If someone came to that conclusion they likely already had a really negative opinion on GNOME and possibly Flatpak/Flathub as well. I explicitly said in the video that they are guidelines used to decide which apps to highlight not hardset rules, I used the word guidelines in the title, I do think I should probably should have repeated it again at the end though.
@Jordan Petridis @Daimar Stein :sphealroll: @Monster
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@monster @joojmachine @alatiera However even after being told they're guidelines I'm seeing people say "Well yeah they are now but wait until they're not" some people are completely delusional and no amount of guardrails will keep them on track.
@Jordan Petridis @Daimar Stein :sphealroll: @Monster
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Monster
Monster
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@BrodieOnLinux @joojmachine @alatiera Yeah that's fair, but then again, a title screaming that they "absolutely suck" does not help setting a good first impression...
@Jordan Petridis @Daimar Stein :sphealroll: @Brodie Robertson
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Daimar Stein :sphealroll:
Daimar Stein :sphealroll:
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@monster @BrodieOnLinux @alatiera right? and specially knowing where a lot of your fanbase stands politically (I've been on Brodie's Matrix community for less than a week and I know exactly where they stand) weirdly focusing on the Marx thing is almost a dogwhistle for the trolls and right-wingers there to go abusing the devs

If the intention was to avoid having people harassing the devs, pointing this out is absolutely having the opposite effect

@Jordan Petridis @Brodie Robertson @Monster
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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The matrix is abandoned, that's it's own thing now and has nothing to do with me at this point, the links are still present because I haven't removed them
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@monster @joojmachine @alatiera I've said before that YouTube should timestamp where you are in the video when you comment
@Jordan Petridis @Daimar Stein :sphealroll: @Monster
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TheEvilSkeleton
TheEvilSkeleton
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@BrodieOnLinux I mean, there's a massive difference between using a picture of someone with ideas and someone directly linked to genocide

@alatiera @lea

@Jordan Petridis @Brodie Robertson @Lea
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@TheEvilSkeleton It was an intentionally inflammatory example, the point I was getting at was it's not seen as issue if you're someone that likes the person, but there are a lot of people out there who don't and all including them does is makes you a target for needless harassment.

@alatiera @lea

@Jordan Petridis @Lea @TheEvilSkeleton
in reply to Brodie Robertson

Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@TheEvilSkeleton @alatiera When you're already a target if you're from a project like GNOME for example there's no point painting a bigger one on your back for no reason at all
@Jordan Petridis @TheEvilSkeleton
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razze
razze
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@BrodieOnLinux @TheEvilSkeleton @alatiera
somehow I think not having this would have been even worse for me going through the comments - with this there is at least some distraction 😀

and as far as I've read up on the people I'm glad you kept it at marx - could have been worse

@Jordan Petridis @Brodie Robertson @TheEvilSkeleton
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@razze @TheEvilSkeleton @alatiera I do like that this distracted from the other actual issues lol, I only brought it up because I know some people are obsessed with politics are harass others over it, but the screenshot structure itself wasn't a problem
@Jordan Petridis @razze @TheEvilSkeleton
in reply to Lea

Lea
Lea
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For those who don't know, the other contacts in the example screenshot are other communist revolutionaries and figures. Not just Karl Marx.. hey, at least they put effort into it.
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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I couldn't tell past the 5 pixels in the "good" screenshot lol
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Brodie Robertson
Brodie Robertson
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@alatiera It was an example, pick any figure that you don't particularly like
@Jordan Petridis

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