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"the internet is a resilient network"

the internet when one cdn goes down:

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CDNs should be forbidden. If a site is slow, thats because the site has too much shit on it. throwing more hardware at it does not fix the problem, quite the contrary in fact.
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my home website when one CDN goes down: still working all fine!
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The network is resilient (less interference by megacorps/governments). What's running on top of it, not so much.
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meanwhile, #IRC, #NetNews and #Email ask "what was that? did you hear that? no? oh well." and just carry on 😛
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gonna pretend I don't see my employer on there and stay in bed

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Interesting that I didn't even notice that but what was down? Cloudflare?
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That internet is fine, it's built to be resilient. The Web, not so much.
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@Viss The internet is a resilient network. But it's hard. and this industry's usual answer to hard is.. we can do that for you! And then competition being what it is... You end up here..
@Viss
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internet resilience and internet security and internet privacy are all a myth.
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one of the reasons I don't rely on Cloudflare for my instance :blobfoxgoogly:
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These websites are not the internet.
We are the internet.
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COMPANY: We don’t want to host copies of all these JS libraries ourselves! WTF!?! Use whatever free CDN you find.
ME: Production systems will go down if these rando CDNs aren’t available for *any* reason. You OK with that?
COMPANY: 🦗 🦗🦗
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but it took the internet to get the data to generate that page.
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Well, corporate websites are not the internet… which kept working just fine. So yes, IT'S ACTUALLY a resilient network…

@jwz

@jwz
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That's not the internet. That's (a certain kind of) the present web
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Thing is, downdetector is still working fine in order for you to make this point.

Perhaps the internet is exactly as robust and resilient as it claims, but these capitalist sites with their insane requirements and user loads that *require* these massive meta-networks of dumb data delivery servers, maybe they are not so well-thought-out as the underlying infrastructure that is perfectly capable of watching them burn out regularly.

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@eurozerozero The cost of resiliency has always been anathema to the corporate bottom line.
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Outage limited to the US east coast.
Seems resilient from over here… One region of one CDN can go down without dragging other parts of the net down with it.
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"the fediverse is a resilient network"

the fediverse when one hetzner goes down:

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"is it a nuclear strike on the bay area or is cloudflare just down?"

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My favorite two misconceptions about computing: "Processors are cheap and network is reliable".

No, and no. My computer is not your playground which you can spend my processor cycles because you didn't want to write proper code that day, and no, network is not reliable just because TCP retransmission is a thing (which you don't use because you're addicted to UDP's low latency since you don't optimize your network code to begin with).

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the Internet is indeed a very resilient network. The web however has become a joke
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A consequence of modern late-stage capitalism's penchant for acquisition & centralization.

As the monopolies form, so do the single points of failure.

Cases in point: Amazon, CloudFlare, Dyn

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