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#Threads / Meta continue feeling the heat from the #Bluesky.

They're testing letting you pin any feed as your home, and making feeds more visible on mobile.

Bluesky and Mastodon will continue to be my home though. Fool me once with a bajillionaire-owned platform...

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

As usual it looks like A/B testing though, so not everyone will see it. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't go through with it, Meta's whole thing is keeping you suckered to an algorithm.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

Once upon a time Meta let you pick your facebook feed to be most recent (of your friends and liked pages, groups). Then they determined algorithm could keep one scrolling longer and the choices got buried and requiring manual selection. Apps that worked around it were neutered or broken to force the feed. This is solely a ploy to lure users in, hook them, and then rug pull later.
in reply to Stullekovski

@stullekovski getting VC funding doesn't make them rich, and it's an open platform, Threads is not - even though they're slowly opening up to the Fediverse, none of Threads is open
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

not yet and still a moral question with crypto in the back.
it's not that "open" (main instance/control) and FOSS. for me it's nothing and a sell out in a few years (sooner or later). twitter way in speedrun
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in reply to Stullekovski

do what you like, but BS will end same way. i'll keep moving and just stay here ;)
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

Bluesky will likely be my home, mainly since the Fediverse falls into the same pitfalls most FOSS software goes through, and most fedi people refuse to listen to the alternatives anyway.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

"Bluesky and Mastodon will continue to be my home though. Fool me once with a bajillionaire-owned platform.."

Literally what Bluesky is though......

So I guess that's "fool me twice. Or three times. Or whatever."

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in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

In the end it's no more open than Facebook having APIs for some external things to access.

It's still centralized and all the open things connect to the centralization. Even if you build something based on their modified protocol, you can't "federate." The closest thing you can do is what the bridge bot does.

But I guess you'll just have to see for yourself.

in reply to Nazo

@nazokiyoubinbou so far Bluesky has talked a whole lot about how open they are but it really should come with some major asterisks attached, as everything actually meaningful about the service is still centralized

you can host your own PDS but if their servers go down that PDS is useless

maybe they get to actual decentralization, maybe not, but given they're a for-profit company I don't understand how they simultaneously sell subscriptions to make money and stay "open"

@Nazo
in reply to sweet conceit

@lewdmachines @nazokiyoubinbou if you care about decentralisation above all else fine, but i didnโ€™t even mention it

Why is it on Mastodon, without fail, any time I mention any other service all the reply guys come along to go at me for it, yโ€™all so tiring

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

@lewdmachines Sorry to upset you, but I do think it's important to remember the differences in how the platforms function. The key point here is that Bluesky is not only not immune to all the things that have happened to other centralized platforms before it, but basically in a position where it's probably going to ultimately want to go that same direction sooner or later. Unfortunately, most signs point more towards sooner than to later.

It's all well and good that they pretend at being open, but since they aren't really, it's ultimately meaningless. But most importantly, that can't be a point of consideration just solely on its own. After all, most of what Google does is open, but they're hardly good...

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

That doesn't really matter in this case. What makes bluesky a viable alternative to X right now is it's social graph. That has reached critical mass for groups of people looking for specific communities outside of X.

When you move instances in the Fediverse you take your social graph with you. A bluesky competitor built on the same source code won't have that advantage.

@nazokiyoubinbou

@Nazo
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

Fool me twice with another one (bluesky, surprise!)

You can't use AtProto without bluesky and everybody uses the same instance so it's not very open...

and besides the VC shareholders could close it at any time.

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in reply to Asterisk

@asterisk it's fully open, just not fully decentralised like the fediverse

people on Mastodon seem to say this every time like they're brainwashed

in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

Muting this, you Fediverse folks *really* cannot help but lecture people on what they use can you? It's tiring. This is why people don't want to use it.
in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

The Fediverse has attracted such a toxic perfectionist audience. I feel people on Bluesky appreciate the messiness of real life more.

I guess what Iโ€™m trying to say is the Fediverse should touch grass.

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in reply to Liam @ GamingOnLinux ๐Ÿง๐ŸŽฎ

Experimenting with Bluesky, trying to get my bearings there. Need to find something that posts to both, Mastodon & Bluesky because double posting isnโ€™t fun.

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