“When a new technology becomes cheaper than the old one & can do all the same stuff, people switch…
1. The EV revolution will help save the planet’s environment bc it’ll allow us to electrify most of transportation, which accounts for ~1/4 of global CO2 emissions. 2. It’ll give us cheaper transportation than before, which will boost economic growth & make life easier for lots of people.”
Excellent explainer of why “EVs will win” by @noahpinion https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/all-the-arguments-against-evs-are #climatechange #economics
Bread and Circuses
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •Montana Magpie
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •Alyson Decker
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •The Turtle
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •the all-electric pickups in ads are pretty amusing.
You're going to look kinda stupid carrying a three-gallon jug of electricity 20 miles up a trail somewhere when you run out of charge.
Hybrid has its uses. EVs have their uses.
Steve Moore :toad:
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •Lee 🌏
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •BUT
not if we don't stop global consumerism. In the end, EVs will end up cheaper to own and run than ICEV. This will result in more people using cars and roads and all the problems and additional consumption that goes with that.
And they will get bigger and bigger too.
We need both to switch to EVs but also switch to more bikes, walking and public transport, to "save the environment"
We Want EVERYTHING! 🌹
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •Carbon emissions per 1 ton of steel = 1.8 tons
Not only will replacing combustion engines with electric motors still be carbon intensive, mining for battery minerals will devastate the landscape.
We need public transportation!
#carbon #climate #ev #cars #publicTransportation #steel
Hypx
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •The article is utterly laughable. The first point is that cars in general are a bad idea. This argument against EVs definitely is *NOT* wrong.
The other is that BEVs are a huge and highly resource intensive idea. It will almost certainly give way to something else. Likely #hydrogen cars.
Ted Lemon
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •Amber Foxx
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •Tom Ritchford
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •To the addict, the solution is always more of the drug.
"We can continue to consume exponentially increasing amounts as long as we consume the right things," is mathematically false.
empiricism
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •That's fundamentally incorrect!
At current quantities, electrifying (switching) all, for example, private combustion engine vehicles to EV's, will cause a CO2 emission "pulse" into the atmosphere. That will mean more climate heating therefore climate change (+ eco degradation to mine all the elements for the EV's).
In reality, sooner rather than later, we will have to accept that we will need to shrink the energy inefficient sectors of the economy.
#Degrowth
@noahpinion
empiricism
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •The convenient simplicity, & effective marketing gimmick, of wanting to believe or promoting that buying more products will "save the planet".
Unfortunately, that's a very popular wish based ideology. Generally, that's consumerism.
But, sure, EV's clean up our local air.
Therefore, "grow" (invest in) public EV transport, whilst reducing (deinvest) private transport.
#Degrowth #Efficiency
@noahpinion
Sturle Sunde 🇳🇴🇺🇦🇪🇺🏴☠️☕️
in reply to Sheril Kirshenbaum • • •In Norway EVs already won.
New car registrations in Norway in April 2023:
BEV: 84.2%
PHEV+HEV: 12%
ICE: 3.8%
Most car brands have stopped selling ICEs and HEVs, because people aren't interested in this antiquated technology. There are plenty cheap used fossils for sale for people who want an old fashioned smelly car.