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Open source smart speaker under $25, yes or no?

  • yes (66%, 746 votes)
  • no (18%, 205 votes)
  • depends (leave a comment) (14%, 167 votes)
1118 voters. Poll end: 8 months ago

in reply to PINE64

if the frame is solid enough and the drivers are not tiny I'd pay more.
in reply to PINE64

I'd be more interested in an SBC focused on audio, with a good selection of IO that I could hook up to my existing sound system and a mic, rather than an integrated smart-speaker.
in reply to PINE64

depends on the benefits its openness can provide
in reply to PINE64

didn't Mycroft try this and fail? Will the speaker be forking that projects work and work offline?
in reply to PINE64

Sounds like a good proposition. But I'm wondering what features the speaker will offer, and how well the components are documented.
in reply to PINE64

Speakers are always a question of sound quality. Can hardly imagine, that with 25 $ someone could reach a quality, I would like to buy.
in reply to PINE64

would pay triple that amount easy if it was actually solid sounding tech instead of just cheap e-waste
in reply to PINE64

if it sounds good, is repairable, the battery doesn't fail within a year, and still can be manufactured ethically given those constraints, sure.

if not, you'd just be manufacturing e-waste.

in reply to PINE64

better more, if 25 means too much compromise on specs
in reply to PINE64

i guess it really depends on the feature set, and if it's gonna be AI-powered bullshit or an actually useable gadget
in reply to PINE64

If the smarts are onboard and not LLM garbage, then yes.
in reply to PINE64

Depends... What are the "smart" features and how good can such a cheap speaker sound?
in reply to PINE64

Will it actually come with software that works?
in reply to PINE64

yes, if you don't worry about sound quality too much. No, if you care about sound quality in not so small space (you'd need 2+ physical speakers in the box, etc etc)

I read people hack Sonos speakers' hardware to make it more useful.

in reply to PINE64

just a board with amp that gets me multi room audio over WiFi. Speakers can be bought for cheap.
in reply to PINE64

Since the failure (or should I say too steep of price) of the Mycroft2 , I've been totally wanting something like this!
in reply to PINE64

love these things pretty much just for stuff that's faster than pulling out my phone or quick and brief. also asking for music beats searching it up and trying to connect to a speaker.

so stuff like unit conversion, music service integration, definitions, etc. would absolutely pay for an open device like this.

what would the assistant's name be? some pinecone play on words? the unicorn perhaps?

in reply to PINE64

As much as I'd like to see it, sound quality is more important to me than the smarts. Maybe I'm just not the right audiences
in reply to PINE64

What stack would it target? e.g., is the intent to have a something that can run Rhasspy on-device, or is it something that would just handle wakeword detection and offload TTS/STT/intent detction elsewhere?
in reply to PINE64

If the wifi driver exists at launch...

(Eyeing my Pinetab 2)

in reply to PINE64

$25 seems way too low for a quality device that doesn’t feel and sound cheap…
in reply to PINE64

How about an open source smart dongle with audio out to convert any arbitrary speaker into a smart speaker?
in reply to PINE64

what's the point of a smart speaker to begin with? I never get why people would have something with the same functionality as their phones, but with the additional risk of a mic* listening to you 24/7.

*another mic, i mean, smartphones are already invasive enough

in reply to PINE64

it doesn't even have to be a full product, but some type of DIY kit where the hardware and software is well integrated.

I've built myself a small speaker with a pi zero + a 3W amp + some good but small woofers and tweeters. The hardest part was getting the crossover working. I thought about making it "smart" but I didn't want to rely on cloud features. If you manage to get an on-device system, I'd definitely be interested.

in reply to PINE64

the mycroft smart speaker costs $399 and probably still can't work offline with competitive quality

they have 5.1 million dollar funding to make this product work, but i think still not succeed

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/mycroft-ai-inc

so i think it's not possible for you to create a competetive product, that cheap

rather focus on ARM and RISC-V devices and simpler Open Hardware products

in reply to PINE64

Said yes, but I guess really it depends. Sounds quality, of course, but equally important is that I do _not_ want a microphone. I don't want to have more microphones connected to the internet around me than absolutely necessary, no matter how much I trust the software.
in reply to PINE64

I said no. I'd rather see Pine64 focus on the projects it already has in the fire.
in reply to PINE64

How about a bit more, like $40 USD for something a little nicer?
in reply to PINE64

Doesn't really appeal to me, but I have been toying with a an auditory browser I might try running on such a smartspeaker...

But for homecontrol, I'm very happy with switches!

in reply to PINE64

if it looks good with some obvious pine64 branding and sounds half-decent, i might buy it.
in reply to PINE64

Depends on the sound quality. Also what makes a smart speaker "smart"?

*Edit: one of those ones with a mic and Wi-Fi? Then my answer is no, but we'll see :blackcat_11127:

in reply to PINE64

Yes with a clock to use as wake-up alarm 👍
in reply to PINE64

"smart" in what way? I have an airplay speaker which is great and I can use it from Linux, but not from android ): If there was some universally supported WiFi casting audio casting that would be nice
in reply to PINE64

Make it like the alexa speakers and it will fit in with #homeassistant year of voice.
in reply to PINE64

I would rather have a more expensive one which sounds great and the Hardware to pair multiple to one mash with synchronised sound output.
in reply to PINE64

I want a wrist band or a smart watch, but that could be interesting, could it run some kind of AI asistant?
in reply to PINE64

Work with Nabu Casa so it integrates well with @homeassistant and #YearOfTheVoice and I'll be picking up one for every room in my house.

I'd also suggest talking to Synesthesium (the lead dev over at https://community.rhasspy.org/ who is also the primary dev hired for Year Of The Voice).

in reply to PINE64

If they sound decent, I’d absolutely buy a bunch and get whole-home audio working with Home Assistant.
in reply to PINE64

omg yes.

would love multiple form factors too. like having something to replace a sonos, but also one with a travel outdoor form factor (like some stuff JBL makes) and maybe a larger one for bigger parties would be awesome.

maybe this is the start of someone building a FOSS Sonos-like realtime audio sync system to group all your speakers together like no other manufacturer lets you do

in reply to PINE64

Personally I'd rather see a #FOSS smart speaker priced at $69, with $50 going towards a better quality sound device and $19 from each unit going towards paying for additional development for the missing pieces in the community software projects.
#foss
in reply to PINE64

It should be out-of-the-box compatible with Home Assistant Assist!
in reply to PINE64

it depends on what the quality is like on the audio and if we can upgrade the internals as well

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