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01:49 Why not just use Ubuntu?
03:54 Debian (instant clickbait)
05:14 Linux Mint
06:19 Rhino Linux
07:37 Pop!_OS
09:18 Tuxedo OS
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Generally, what people dislike about Ubuntu are the inclusion of Snaps, the proprietary backend of the Snap Store, the opt-out telemetry, and some questionable decisions over the years.
But you could always disable all of that? That's just part of the story. If what you dislike is Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, then disabling this doesn't really help.
And we'll begin by immediately lying, as this one isn't Ubuntu based: it's actually the one Ubuntu is based on: Debian. If what you like about Ubuntu, and what you want to keep using, is apt, the package manager, the vast software repos, but you want a vanilla KDE or GNOME experience, and none of the Canonical projects and decisions, Debian might be a really solid bet.
Mint is based on the latest Ubuntu LTS, and removes basically everything that makes Ubuntu, Ubuntu: snaps aren't there, some apps that don't have a debian package anymore in Ubuntu have on in Mint, like Chromium, and they don't use the GNOME desktop: you get Cinnamon, a desktop Mint developed themselves, once based on GNOME 3, but now pretty much its own thing.
One you might want to try is Rhino Linux. It's also a relatively recent distro, and it moves away from the Ubuntu template by being a rolling release: it doesn't give you major upgrades, it's always updated in the background, especially the Linux kernel, and some important apps, like Firefox.
Rhino Linux doesn't use the GNOME desktop by default, it uses its own vision of XFCE, that, let's be honest, feels very much like modern GNOME. You can use apt, but Rhino Linux also comes with a meta package manager, called Rhino-pkg, that lets you install debian packages from the repos, flatpaks, snaps, and it also lets you use pacstall, an equivalent to the Arch User repository for Ubuntu.
Another Ubuntu based distro that has a few cool tricks up its sleeve is PopOS. PopOS has some updates on top of that base, notably for drivers and the Linux kernel, and has some applications that are provided in their own repo, so you're not stuck on very old versions of important apps. They also have some interesting tweaks to the GNOME desktop: they offer a different experience, with a dock by default, an app launcher, and auto tiling features that let you switch from floating windows to a tiling window manager at the press of a button, or with a keyboard shortcut.
If you're more of a KDE user, then there's Tuxedo OS. It's Ubuntu based, with the latest KDE apps and desktop, plucked straight from KDE Neon's repositories: this means you get a semi rolling release model, with access to the repos for Ubuntu's latest LTS version, plus some extra repos on top of that for more recent kernel and drivers, and some applications that need to be more up to date.
And now for a list of the distros I didn't really include, and the reasons why!
The first one is Zorin OS: while it's a good take on Ubuntu, being basically exactly Ubuntu LTS, but with a customized desktop, pre made layouts, and support for virtually every packaging format out of the box, it's also based on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and the Linux kernel 5.15.
The second one is elementary OS. It's based on 22.04 LTS, and does have access to the full Ubuntu repos. While I personally think it's a really great option, the defaults won't fit everyone, including the removal of all debian based packages from their graphical app store.
And then there are all the Ubuntu flavours: they're also now constrained by Canonical's decisions, like preventing them from shipping another packaging format than snap.
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Kevin Karhan :verified:
in reply to The Linux Experiment • • •Rhababerbarbar
in reply to Kevin Karhan :verified: • • •@thelinuxexperiment @ubuntu
Also, Snaps are only available from proprietary snapstore, which sucks. But if Ubuntu is really succeeding to control all these apps and keep their store save, AND have a Desktop that containerizes everything, that would be great!
So with Official Ubuntu comes also official security, signed ISOs and so on.
#commercial #Landscape #SLAs #Canonical
Kevin Karhan :verified:
in reply to Rhababerbarbar • • •OFC, one does always buy into an #Ecosystem...
I think #Canonical should not #hamfist #Snap too hard and instead work towards a safe alliance to enshure portability of #Linux applications across Distros to replace the #RedHat dominance and avoid a #Duopoly if not #Tripoly for their own sake.
Which reminds me that @EU_Commission not calling out #RHEL and #Autodesk as #Market #Gatekeepers shows that those decisionmakers know shit about #tech.
Rhababerbarbar
in reply to Kevin Karhan :verified: • • •Hm, what is the gatekeeping here? Flatpaks are open and way better than Appimages. Tails is the only reason where I would want appimages. The only advantage of Snaps is Corporation backing and proprietary software.
Ubuntu should totally focus on Core and other things like that, but please, just join effords... its not possible though.
@thelinuxexperiment @ubuntu @EU_Commission
Kevin Karhan :verified:
in reply to Rhababerbarbar • • •Well, #Snap may be better on the #Server side but considering the "standard by consensus" on #FLOSS they should admit defeat and go with #FlatPak.
Espechally since #Canonical doesn't seem to yet provide the benefit of a #centralized #repo in the form of #QualityControl and #Verification of #Developers...
@BrodieOnLinux took a look at the case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zl_Y8vSteo
Malware Discovered On Ubuntu's Snap Store
YouTubeRhababerbarbar
in reply to Kevin Karhan :verified: • • •So true! Btw I am working on a "Appimage to Flatpak Template". Appimages cant simply be put in a container as they need fuse and thats not possible inside Flatpaks. But you can unpack them and convert them to Flatpaks, which is kinda magic.
I am a total beginner at this, so if someone wants to join, feel free:
https://github.com/trytomakeyouprivate/Appimage-To-Flatpak
The goal is to make the process of creating a flatpak easy.
@thelinuxexperiment @ubuntu @EU_Commission @BrodieOnLinux
GitHub - trytomakeyouprivate/Appimage-To-Flatpak: A template for converting Appimages to Flatpaks to be distributed on Flathub.
GitHubKevin Karhan :verified:
in reply to Rhababerbarbar • • •makes sense.
I wounder if popular apps could use that to provide #FlatPak|s if they already build #AppImage|s...
Brodie Robertson
in reply to Kevin Karhan :verified: • • •Kevin Karhan :verified:
in reply to Brodie Robertson • • •shure.
Personally, I'm currently moving into the extreme frugal #Linux #CLI / #TUI direction with OS/1337.
I need to get some fixups done to make it boot and then it would be ready to release.
https://os1337.com
#OS1337
OS/1337
os1337.comRhababerbarbar
in reply to Brodie Robertson • • •Flatpaks are a cool field! You can now also only add the verified remote:
```
flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
```
Yes I know this command by heart
@kkarhan @thelinuxexperiment @ubuntu
Rhababerbarbar
in reply to Brodie Robertson • • •