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Initial temperature check for #Socialcoop members:

What would you think of enabling members to have [user].social.coop as their handles for Bluesky?

This would require no data storage or throughput from us, just a DNS record: https://bsky.social/about/blog/4-28-2023-domain-handle-tutorial

  • Love it, I would use it (16%, 2 votes)
  • Fine, I guess (58%, 7 votes)
  • I have reservations (reply below) (8%, 1 vote)
  • Definitely not (16%, 2 votes)
12 voters. Poll end: 2 months ago


#SocialCoop members, please be sure to vote in our first participatory budgeting process for our collective contributions to allied projects: https://www.loomio.com/p/IfnNLueo/please-allocate-funds-for-community-contributions-allocation-poll-from-fwg-

@SocialCoop could you post this as an announcement?


As @CaitlinWaddick writes here: https://www.loomio.com/d/16wSnmrt/fwg-organizing-circle-/15

We in the #SocialCoop Finance Working Group feel strongly that it is time to build out a serious Legal Working Group. This has been an ongoing discussion, but we need support on:

- Incorporation
- International membership
- Liability protections
- Emerging regs on social media

And this doesn't fall under the banner of any existing working group.


In today's #SocialCoop Finance Working Group meeting, we're feeling really grateful for the new, improved @opencollective dashboard tools.


#SocialCoop I just made a simple change to the instance to make Mastodon multi-column mode "make sense" in https://social.coop, meaning use up all space instead of having weirdly narrow columns.

See before/after if interested, let me know if you have any issues! You can try it by enabling multi-column mode in your preferences.

h/t testman42@github.com for the workaround: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/8632#issuecomment-850335649


#SocialCoop now has its first annual budget! https://www.loomio.com/d/xqw7FtUT/toward-an-annual-budget/37 ๐Ÿ’ฅ


Just posted minutes of the #SocialCoop Finance Working Group: https://www.loomio.com/d/JHTaN0Ek/meetings-of-the-finance-committee-when-why-who-where-what-fun-/24


YAY! Another CWG Ops Team Meeting! And this time with so many new, lovely faces (and voices!)

Here are the minutes: https://www.loomio.com/d/yh0aFRbU/community-working-group-ops-team-minutes/54

note: they are only available to those who are members of social.coop loomio members so if you can't see 'em it's because you haven't joined our governance platform!

They are long but JUICY. Read to the end for the latest goss on the spam wave ;)

Looking forward to collaborating with MORE lovely people moving forward!

#socialcoop


we literally tried to prevent exactly this from happening in 2016/17, and #Socialcoop was a direct outgrowth of that effort: buytwitter.org


We in the #Socialcoop Finance Working Group just started a thread proposing an annual budget for the co-op: https://www.loomio.com/d/xqw7FtUT/toward-an-annual-budget Please discuss!


@Matt_Noyes I would love to support all those and have tried several times to initiate proposals in #Socialcoop to support cooperative tech.

Bluesky is gaining a lot of traction, and I think it is worth experimenting with how far we can take co-op control in that protocol. If nothing else to understand whether the federation they propose involves real control.


Hey #Socialcoop friends, a question: what would you think of us piloting a Personal Data Server for Bluesky under the co-op? No commitment, just an experiment.

Docs: https://atproto.com/guides/overview

Discussion with @robin @boris: https://bsky.app/profile/ntnsndr.in/post/3kl3hwzd5we2x

  • Love it, propose it in Loomio! (46%, 7 votes)
  • Meh I'm putting my concerns in the comments (53%, 8 votes)
15 voters. Poll end: 9 months ago


Tagging @aeisenberg @rndeon @roland @evan who wanted to participate, please boost the above post and vote for meeting times.

@Matt_Noyes @ntnsndr please spread the word to #SocialCoop folks who would like to participate by boosting the post above this - everyone welcome!


#SocialCoop inline poll: should SocialCoop be one of the signatories of the [[Fedipact]] effort to *preemptively defederate* with Threads.net?

https://www.loomio.com/d/AZcJK6y2 is an ongoing Loomio discussion about this but I wanted to see some in-instance discussion ideally.

  • yes (say why) (44%, 4 votes)
  • no (say why) (55%, 5 votes)
  • maybe (0%, 0 votes)
9 voters. Poll end: 10 months ago


and while I saw lots of little pieces of the decision happen, I don't know the overall story arc.

I don't even know what the decision was, where it's recorded, nor the governance structure through which it emerged.

The analog of the "I'm just a bill..." song but not for U.S. legislation but for #socialcoop decisions.


I'm struggling to get into (i.e. understand ) #socialcoop governance. Not that I have tried very hard... I haven't seen an opportunity where it's clearly useful for me to dig in.

I could really use more stories.

Is there a good presentation (video recording) of the organization as a whole?

Is the origin story written down? The story of why the org was created and why it's growing.


#Socialcoop friends, we in the Finance Working Group invite you to join us in working together on a cohesive budget for the co-op! https://www.loomio.com/d/liwtX0qd/toward-an-annual-budget


#Socialcoop Loomio / recent discussions:

Explicit rules should be added to server "Rules": https://www.loomio.com/d/NVQsFHkU/explicit-rules-should-be-added-to-server-rules
Changes to the fiscal hosting arrangements for social.coop: https://www.loomio.com/d/bHO9Nizd/changes-to-the-fiscal-hosting-arrangements-for-social-coop
On-boarding Q&A for New Members!: https://www.loomio.com/d/weg1CJB5/on-boarding-q-a-for-new-members

More: https://loomio.org/socialcoop


Reminder to #Socialcoop members from the Finance Working Group:

Todayโ€™s balance
ยฃ18,630.05 GBP

Total raised
ยฃ40,696.13 GBP

Total disbursed
ยฃ22,066.08 GBP

https://opencollective.com/socialcoop#category-BUDGET

That is:

- We have spent just over half of our total revenue, ever
- We are not nearly spending what we're contributing

Editorial part (from me):

- We should be more intentional about budgeting for and investing in our community and the broader fediverse ecosystem


#SocialCoop members, please check out this important discussion about the future of our fiscal host relationship: https://www.loomio.com/d/bHO9Nizd/changes-to-the-fiscal-hosting-arrangements-for-social-coop

This is about the legal underpinning of our co-op, and I believe it is good news.


Just started a thread on having the #SocialCoop Finance Working Group develop an annual comprehensive budget for the co-opโ€”members, please join: https://www.loomio.com/d/wRZ9K2As/developing-a-social-coop-cohesive-budget


Good new thinking (and some quotes from me) from @CyberneticForests on the fediverse and #SocialCoop specifically: https://techpolicy.press/how-user-designed-social-media-could-create-healthier-online-communities/


This works, right? Current sentiment (26% voting) suggests there's +50% for defederation. #socialcoop #threads


#SocialCoop members:

Loomio now allows custom poll templates: https://help.loomio.com/en/user_manual/polls/poll_templates/index.html

I've just created a poll template based on our bylaws here (click Poll and choose "Social.coop bylaws-compatible proposal"): https://www.loomio.com/p/new?group_id=56943

Not sure why custom templates only work for polls, not proposals, or if that matters. But I reached out to Loomio about this.


Super grateful for the work of the #SocialCoop Community Working Group. Members, don't miss the latest minutes here: https://www.loomio.com/d/yh0aFRbU/community-working-group-ops-team-minutes


I really appreciate @natematias's concrete suggestions here for how to focus a potential defederation of Meta: https://www.loomio.com/d/AZcJK6y2/discussion-support-the-anti-meta-fedi-pact/80 #Socialcoop


Thanks! Glad you're doing this, and please let me know if I can support you in participating in #SocialCoop governance.

What do you think is the best next step? Reformulate the proposal to address the concerns raised here?


#Socialcoop members, if you haven't yet, please participate in this important vote about defederating Meta's fediverse app preemptively: https://www.loomio.com/d/AZcJK6y2/proposal-to-support-the-anti-meta-fedi-pact/1

I voted no, but I'm glad to see healthy discussion on all sides. However we make this decision, it matters that it is *ours*.

CORRECTION: This is not a formal vote; it is an initial poll for a discussion that will continue to develop.


MANY WORLDS, OR THE SIMULACRA https://radixmedia.org/product/many-worlds-or-the-simulacra/

New book of collective sci-fi, co-edited by #Socialcoop's own @cadwellsocialcoop!


Yes! I have so much appreciated the role of the wiki (a Dokuwiki) in my lab. Sudden departures have been so much eased by being in the habit of continuously expecting students to self-document on the wiki. I hope we can do that better at #SocialCoop going forward.


#PSA for #Socialcoop: our wiki (https://wiki.social.coop) will be occasionally unavailable through this weekend as we move to our new Mediawiki instance, available for your preview at wiki-alpha.social.coop.

The content of the site available up to now at wiki.social.coop, including our registration form, remains available at https://join.social.coop.


My co-op people, DO NOT MISS this upcoming event on Thursday featuring the important new book on worker co-ops, "Cooperatives at Work": https://www.eventbrite.com/e/cooperatives-at-work-book-launch-tickets-619402177587

Featuring great #Socialcoop luminaries @Matt_Noyes @emi @GeorgeCheney!


@mattcropp @Matt_Noyes:

How is your effort on #Socialcoop governance going? https://www.loomio.com/d/txYOWJ4q/organizing-a-growing-social-coop-an-idea-for-a-proposal

I'm curious if there are overlaps with my thread on working group structure: https://www.loomio.com/d/4u7oCqaP/working-group-turnover-time

Should we be conjoining these discussions? Or keeping them separate?

Glad to have company in seeing some degree of necessary #Socialcoop reinvention.


I've just started a thread onLoomio about formalizing a process for turnover in working groups at #Socialcoop. Members, please comment here: https://www.loomio.com/d/4u7oCqaP/working-group-turnover-time-


Long time #socialcoop community working group ops team member @michaelafisher is part of a group starting a multistakeholder #coop queer bar/coffeeshop in #NYC, and they are running an indiegogo campaign to raise funds to support their launch.

I just kicked in some bucks, and consider doing the same if you have capacity. :TwinPines:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/boyfriend-co-op-coffee-cocktails-for-gay-gals#/


@bhaugen @Matt_Noyes Yep, that's what I had in mind, since #Socialcoop is already a @mayfirst member. One thing I appreciate, too, is the intentional low-bandwidth setting to reduce carbon footprint. Also, the MF instance has a rad custom tool for supporting multilingual interpretation.


Interesting ideas about organizing for a structure like we have here on #SocialCoop via @Hamishcampbell
#OGB @ogb
https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody

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