@evan

"they are friendly enemies" this is a view of the polarization our freshly #mainstreaming people push over "native" alt spaces, it makes a mess, let me illustrate:

An example of this are the #fedifourm guys, they are "well meaning" but talk to them and you get dogmatic liberal imperialism, pushing polarizing mess making.

Look at current shifts in #socialhub It's now run by one person, the diversity is sidelined and silenced by the "common sense" of #mainstreaming it's a shadow of the community it was and needs to be.

Experience the #FEP the lack of social buy in for this is feeding the #geekproblem

Our tech it self with its #fudalisam of admin, user etc, king and serf hardcoded allows the polarizing to embed.

All these initiatives are good and grassroots, but all are poisoned by the #mainstreaming polarization of the dogmatic paths of the few people left in charge.

One way out of this mess is sortation based, consensus building, trust networking, democracy.

This is a completely normal recurring issue with grassroot activism, before we were #mainstreaming we were doing better, the question we can't ask is how do we do better while #mainstreaming.

The #OGB - as we can't keep doing the same shit, it's well past time to compost this mess.