Did you look at tinylisp yet? merveilles.town/@akkartik/1155…

Forth is certainly more efficient in memory use. On the other hand, I get the sense you already like Lisp? He's already gotten this Lisp working on a pocket computer. That's some indication of fit for your purpose.

> BASIC is good for certain applications with software preservation

Only if the software you're preserving is BASIC programs? 😂

Lisp is good, but I also have requirement of extreme memory limitations, in addition to type-in programs, right now.

Lisp will come in time, but I think FORTH might be the best avenue to explore.

@Maven I'd disagree on one point, linux users actually do care even if they're being asses about it. The many of the loudest vegans do not actually care, they just want the sense of superiority.

There is at least an authenticity to even the snobbiest linux assholes that many vegan assholes fail to live up to.

most vegans i've met do also care if they're being asses about it, you just dont hear about it from them much.

and i've seen some very inauthentic linux snobs. most people in the linux community just dont really care to listen to them either.

@Maven I've never seen anything of the sort, but I mostly keep to myself so what do I know. I only complained about the vegans because they kept being stupidly preachy about it and openly shaming everyone else.

I don't think I've ever seen a linux user so brash as to shame others in that same way and they'd have hell to pay from me if I ever caught them doing so.

I mean yeah but they were viciously mocked for their attitude until they were for the most part rightfully humbled or so thoroughly memed on their nonsense lost its impact.. I don't see the vegans doing that same sort of self policing.

Not while vegans are still sending me this stuff.

The reality of #running (or any activity) is that everyone should approach it in a way that best suits their body.

To me, influencers generally are only there to chase money. No matter what they say, there is no best shoe, best running style, best shorts, best anything.

There’s what works for each of us.

Personally, I don’t care what people wear when they run, what style they run, how far they run, or how fast they run. I’m just pleased that they’re getting out and being active.

Of course NSM won't work for everyone. It's definitely not a beginner framework and it requires at least 5-6 hours of weekly consistency out of you already.

But if they've plateaued and are frustrated with not making significant progress, it's very likely they are aerobically underdeveloped and mechanically overcooked.

A lot of high volume, low intensity aerobic base building is probably what they need to break free, which is exactly what NSM offers.

And this is exactly where most people get it wrong. I developed a habit of predicting people's next Marathon's race time on Strava based on their training volume and intensity and consistency. And I'm getting more and more accurate. Also I can predict fairly well if they are going to hit the wall at a certain mileage and pace 😁

It's a fun game 🎯
@WTL

@boynux @WTL Part of the problem with a high volume, low intensity training framework is that it's not sexy.

You're not running 1 mile PBs or doing fancy 400 meter track work. The only time you're really at V̇O₂ max is when you're racing distances shorter than a 10K.

So on Strava, your average weekly workout paces always look boring compared to the club's faster runners that you compare yourself to.

There's an itch to copy them so you look like them. And thus, the plateau hits.

💯 Tell me that 😁

I see people on Strava hide their pace and HR when their runs are not "fancy". And I'm like WTF, who does even care.

But the good news is that when they hit the wall during their marathon it becomes clear and they learn that in a hard way and perhaps with injuries (been there, done that 😂)

@WTL