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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/organic_intellectual Our chatting classes in alt-tech are a narrow and uninspiring bunch, we need better views on the #openweb please, are any more organic intellectuals out there, let's talk #4opens


I wonder if people can engage in this #4opens process (#4opens is a completely obverse “social” restating of the #FOSS development process, with the adding back of #openprocess which we have lost with the use of encrypted chat over the last ten years).


https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/the-coders-song/3055 The Coders Song - we need to think about crowed funding this maybe #4opens anyone got any skills at this, I do not 😀


This is an interesting one, data is just data, so I don't have much of an issue of people using data for this. BUT I do have a HUGE issue with them privatizing the results, this is not #4opens


@UncensoredNews
On the subject of licences there are many views https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=why+corpurations+refuse+to+use+sttong+foss+licences I tend to agree that the current #FOSS model is inadequate for stopping co-option, but it's the tools we have, and we need to use it, at the #OMN add a social side to this tool, the #4opens this has POWER if people use it.


#openweb and encrypted chat should coexist without reproducing the mistakes of centralized #dotcons. Bounded projects like #4opens and #PGA help us resist #mainstreaming liberalism and create a shared space of practice and direction for politics and technology. Theory comes from practice, emphasizing grassroots #DIY practices, and using theory from them. Focus on the #4opens is important to avoid pushing mess http://hamishcampbell.com/2023/03/21/thinking-through-composting-the-techshit/


There are meany subcultures on #mastodon that have the idea that they are the ONLY subculture and everything they think is the big story of #fedivers culture. This is bad behaver and obviously not true.

What we do have in common is #4opens and a history of #openweb netticate. The rest is a point of view, valid for its group, but not the "big" story.

Good for #mainstreaming people to understand this healthy, but messy #open culture we have here.


Well I would say we need a unified communication network base on #4opens, and surprisingly we already have this, the #fediverse so #nothingnew comes to mind agen, I only half joke.

Yes, the #dotcons mad a mess over the last 20 years, and nobody who was in their right minds would not push the word together and add the hash ;)

Its basic.


"our" #4opens #OMN project does the first 3 things in a non #mainstreaming #openweb native way and the last one can be done fine by current technology, the are meany #4opens chat, mail apps so little new there to think on.

So maybe you should cut short your "individualistic" wanderings and participate in projects that are already far along the path you want to start on #nothingnew is only half a joke ;)

United we stand, divided we fall https://unite.openworlds.info/explore/organizations is very basic 😀


yep, its currently a mess, though after ten years of wasted #techshit it's a nice mess to have.

Let's take this mess and shift it into a #KISS semantic web of data flows and stores. The keywords for the #OMN are simple and stupid, it's the only root that actually works #grassroots #DIY path.

We need shovels (#4opens) and compost (current #techshit) and seeds (of hope) to plant, let's grow the "commons"

The are projects for this https://opencollective.com/open-media-network


@helge

https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/Open-Media-Network/wiki

#OMN the feeds are the pipes join the data cauldrons. Site/apps are ladles that scoop out data, we are the hands that hold the ladle. The coding basic iron work framing of these tools.

Cauldron - syncing database
Pipe - #4opens standard flows of data
Ladle - website/app that displays data

How to write this up from a technical prospective. Help please.


Working on a draft #4opens review of the proposed video conf app, it's not "native". Of course not policing what people use rather outlining good/traditional practice https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/issues/13 My thinking you would be better off using #BBB as this is a gold #4opens app and a good tradition of organizing events for the #Fediverse using this tools so win/win 😀


I kinda think TRUST should be built into social media - security is only a tiny part of this and often a unthinking #geekproblem BLOCK on this building of social "trust". Good to think about this.

#openweb #4opens


To navigate the overwhelming barrage of information in today's world, we can compost the last 40 years of social sh*t to understand political motivations. The right-wing is motivated by fear and control, while the left-wing prioritizes trust and openness. In the tech world, the #4opens promotes transparency, collaboration, and decentralized decision-making. However, #4opens and left-wing politics only work if people embrace a #DIY approach http://hamishcampbell.com/2023/02/18/composting-the-last-40-years-of-social-sht-understanding-political-motivations-and-embracing-openness-and-trust/


interesting that you use the wiki metaphor.

We use #datasoup or #witchescauldron

Then ladle or #goldenladle as the app metaphor.

In the #OMN the multi hashtags build up the Links.

It's a #KISS semantic web and grassroots process. A #4opens tool for society made up of individuals inside and outside communertys.


With the #mainstreaming flooding in, we need to tell our own stories or be swamped by their bad narrative. The subject of the cats and the Eurocrats https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/eu-outreach-if-we-dont-tell-our-story-am-not-sure-who-will/2950

We have a good, convoluted #4opens process on the search link in the draft that needs putting into short words.

Then how to communicate the value in this "cat melowling" ;)

let's try and keep the "signal" in the current "noise"


Nice to see replies, we really need to celebrate that a group of grassroots #4opens activist got the #EU to use #fediverse #openweb apps. This shows where the value comes from, good to link to this thanks

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/search?expanded=true&q=EU+workshop


Let's talk about engagement on the #fediverse:

The @EU_Commission
has 71k followers on #mastodon. They have 1.7 million followers on Twitter.

The same post got:
363 boosts on Mastodon
110 retweets on Twitter

So the same message got 3 times as many engagements on the #openweb

We really need to celebrate that a group of grassroots #4opens activists got the #EU to use #fediverse #openweb apps. This shows where the value comes from, good to link to this thanks

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/search?expanded=true&q=EU+workshop


These events smell like poison for #4opens we do need a way of judging things like this.


#DecentSocialTopics If you are not focusing on worked though projects, then happy to talk about #openweb governance, media, news, archiving, EU outreach and #4opens approaches to the #fediverse and wider #openweb world.


looking through the list of speakers, am wondering the balance of #NGO parasite to healthy #4opens in this #EU event.

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