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These guys are insane, this might be the first time you have noticed this, but it's always been true. Insanity is a part of the belief system of some socialists, the is a bad history to this
https://www.buzzsprout.com/903769/13818851-otns-transitioning-refi-dao-to-a-coordi-nation.mp3

#openweb #BlockchainSocialist #dontbeaprat they are saying they need to use the #4opens to build their insane system, why not just build with the #4opens and skip the nuttiness #KISS



The purpose and vision for our #OGB project is to address challenges and conflicts that currently exist within grassroots organizations and assist in the management of those that arise. By creating a tool set for 'Do It Yourself' (DIY) governance. We aim to develop a 'Keep It Simple, Stupid' (#KISS) standard framework and process. This will become #OGB which can be used in future solutions, organically evolving through time.

http://hamishcampbell.com/2023/08/28/outreaching-the-ogb-what-is-the-project/

#OGB #kiss


have you thought that having all the #openwebs security going through one org might be a fail.

#4open #KISS big/small picture thinking issue.


Killing millions and displacing billions of people is evil #XR

This is #KISS best not to add noise to the signal #climatechaos


@bob
This mess you talk about is not solved by more tech we already have most of what we need.

* Open media is #4opens based on trust, the current ActivertyPub is a relatively #KISS good example of this.

* Privacy is encrypted p2p chat, which the are meany good #UX mature #FOSS projects you can find

The change we need is social, getting people to use the different approaches for different needs, this is surprisingly difficult.

Bridges while dangerous are needed.


@witchescauldron
For this funding to be a #openweb project, it needs #openprocess which transparency is a core #4opens I don't think either of the current funding projects do this - likely for privacy and security and "safety" issues -this makes them non "native" to the #openweb they are saying they are a part of. A tension we need to talk abut.

#KISS


By reacting to #mainstreaming you are pushing #mainstreaming to try and step away from this kinda #fashernista behaviour you should take an alt path and stick to it, this is better if this path is progressive and socially changing #KISS


#bluesky #Nostr #activertypub

They all share #4opens #openweb tech, so this is a win.

Where they differ is in the "culture" they come from and push.

#bluesky comes from surveillance capitalism, it's from the #dotcons and has meany of the same assumptions, just "better".

#Nostr comes from the #encryptionists and #bitcoin bro crew and suffers from being from this mess.

#activertypub is #openweb native and comes from the #4opens traditions the whole software world is actually built on.

#KISS


yep, its currently a mess, though after ten years of wasted #techshit it's a nice mess to have.

Let's take this mess and shift it into a #KISS semantic web of data flows and stores. The keywords for the #OMN are simple and stupid, it's the only root that actually works #grassroots #DIY path.

We need shovels (#4opens) and compost (current #techshit) and seeds (of hope) to plant, let's grow the "commons"

The are projects for this https://opencollective.com/open-media-network


interesting that you use the wiki metaphor.

We use #datasoup or #witchescauldron

Then ladle or #goldenladle as the app metaphor.

In the #OMN the multi hashtags build up the Links.

It's a #KISS semantic web and grassroots process. A #4opens tool for society made up of individuals inside and outside communertys.

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