@alcinnz Oh that's AWESOME! I've just bookmarked it. Can't believe doctor who is drm free!

There *should* be a website that recomends opensource, community made content. Like in general. Maybe not somewhere that hosts it, but like an index that can search and suggest stuff you might be interested in. With a decent review system.

@duskcomics That's a good point...

The hard part is that people are so used to mainstream media that they don't know *how* to consume anything else.

I sure wouldn't be able to circulate content like this on mainstream media. Since the system survives by co-opting and corrupting any form of counter culture willing to cooperate even a little bit.

What I can think right now is just being a sarcastic troll and bait normies with a title that'll make them think they can be cool by reading it.

On one side, yeah. But on the other... how do you make something intentionally hip and underground without turning into the most normie thing ever.

Like coca cola making ads with skateboarders, because their brand is so "radical" haha

@woozle I don't have an outline for it yet (just though about it in this afternoon) but I'm certain that a section about peer pressure will be necessary...

And short...

"Just say you'll watch it later, you'll put in the backlog blackhole, or outright say you are not interested if you really do not care.

Peer pressure only work if you care about being pressured. You can choose to be absolutely indifferent to it. And talk about anything else in conversations."

@AuthorSSD Yeah and I like this aspect. I love writing and drawing and the format works really well for what I want to do.

(Less drawing than a comic, more drawing than a book.)

I can't really call it a zine though because the vast majority of ppl don't know what a zine is.

So I just call it a minibook, or light novel for fiction.

So really just an underground, entirely indie anthology with a variety of work in it! There's definitely gotta be SOME kind of appeal for that, especially in smaller art scenes or art scenes too local for outsiders to otherwise come in.

I imagine a catalog variant of a zine could also work for artists and makers working with traditional mediums, who have art/stock to sell, etc.

I've thought about doing something similar myself, I just don't know many other artists.

@AuthorSSD the idea is to be more of a guide on how to find stuff yourself. Teach a man how to fish and all.

But with a bit of planning I might be able to host a catalogue of indie stuff that people can contribute on my website.

This can be a cool side-side project. To work on.

I can just put a big chunky QR code directing to it on the Zine eventually.

@hexvoid Well, you can follow me and I'll probably post about it whenever I have an outline to check if anyone wants to make a lil collab.

But I've been thinking about making a small discord channel where I and other creators can share or propose creative projects that people can volunteer to collab. May it be comics, zines and e.t.c.

It'll start small, and this can be my first project there.

@LexTenebris Yeah, that's the main point I've been thinking about.

Maybe I could make this like a zine on alternatives for people who are already kind of burnt out of traditional media.

But then it comes back to the point of how are the target audience going to reach this .

Alternatively, there was the suggestion of making something like an indie catalogue.

Which is a bit far from the original idea, but can also help if it is accessible enough.

At this point, it you are just talking about curation. And while curation is extremely useful, it still necessitates asking the question of why you should bother if you don't know who is going to read it?

Or, more succinctly, if you don't know who the real audience is going to be you can't actually reasonably design the publication.

Step one: imagine who the intended audience is and how you would have a conversation with them.

@LexTenebris while I have the Design skills I really am very newbish on the marketing side of everything.

The target audience would be people who are interested in finding indie, underground content. But don't know how to find it. So I would be offering a sort of starting point.

Don't think of it is marketing. That is the failure mode of a lot of designers; they imagine that this is something different than what they have been doing their whole life.

It's not.

Imagine telling people who don't necessarily know you yet about things you really like and getting them enthusiastic. Like your favorite art markers or brushes.

Where did the people you want to talk to spend their time?

@BlinkPopShift lol, ok. Not necessarily on topic but I use playlists to focus.

I gotchu homie. No percussion? I try some sweet flutes and a dark ambience music.

That being said, for most people the beat is what helps you to focus. Since your mind will focus on the rhythm and not on four other things.

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@eviloatmeal Yeah, I don't think it's even feasable to try and disconnect from all corporate stuff. It's not 100% escapable.

Still, participation can be a choice. You can decide on what you'll participate if you have other options.

When you feel like it's all you can find you turn into a sort of prisioner. And the corpo ppl knows that they can do anything and you won't leave.